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Red Rider — Lunatic Fringe
Album: As Far As Siam
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Released: 1981
Length: 4:19
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Lunatic fringe
I know you're out there
You're in hiding
And you hold your meetings
I can hear you coming
I know what you're after
We're wise to you this time (wise to you this time)
We won't let you kill the laughter

Lunatic fringe
In the twilight's last gleaming
But this is open season
But you won't get too far
'Cause you've got to blame someone
For your own confusion
We're on guard this time (on guard this time)
Against your final solution

We can hear you coming (we can hear you coming)
No, you're not going to win this time (not gonna win)
We can hear the footsteps (we can hear the footsteps)
Hey, out along the walkway (out along the walkway)

Lunatic fringe
We all know you're out there
Can you feel the resistance
Can you feel the thunder
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 reguru2112 wrote:

Devolving into politics. Moderator required now?
Just .. 
listen and be still for 5 minutes





They can't help themselves. 
Devolving into politics. Moderator required now?
Just .. 
listen and be still for 5 minutes



 Lindo525 wrote:

If you turn it down a little- you wont have to yell!


Nope, leave it cranked up! 
Song backstory: https://www.tomcochranesite.co...







“Lunatic Fringe in the twilights last gleaming” So tragic to see that 40 years later this “fringe” has been encouraged to go mainstream - all around the world. Resisting fascism is now an existential challenge we must win.
Such a great jam. 
Very Pink Floyd - The Wall 
Sounds liike MAGA theme song
My daughter toured with Tom a few years ago, quite the fun time. Check her out ...
#jessicamitchell ...
We Still see you out there...
U Kant hyde.
Ahhh - my old college theme song...
It is amazing that a song called Lunatic Fringe INSTANTLY brings out just that in the comments. 

Power to the Music! 
 Relayer wrote:

Reading the wiki notes on the lyrics, song now has a new level of respect from me:

"Lunatic Fringe", the band's most famous song, is about what composer Tom Cochrane saw as an alarming rise of anti-Semitism in the 1970s, and was inspired by a book he read about Raoul Wallenberg.




The more things change, the more they stay the same.  Just ask Yeezy.
 Relayer wrote:

Reading the wiki notes on the lyrics, song now has a new level of respect from me:

"Lunatic Fringe", the band's most famous song, is about what composer Tom Cochrane saw as an alarming rise of anti-Semitism in the 1970s, and was inspired by a book he read about Raoul Wallenberg.




Not to be all contrary 3 years after the fact (which of course means that's what I'm going to do), but I'd vote White Hot as their most known song.  Lyrics about the poet Jean Rimbaud and his time as a gun runner  in Africa.  As rock n' roll poetry, pretty compelling.
Pinkish Floydish
I feel the resistance.
Great tune. Forgot all about this one .. it gets missed in compilations of the time, that's for sure. But should not. Aged quite well. 
 sunward wrote:
Edit: I just saw that my comment got several thumbs down. <sigh> That makes my point that this is a life and death struggle between: 

the banks, the fossil corporations,  the 1%, and the terminally ignorant 

vs. 

the rest of life on the planet. 

Now this is funny. You almost completely described the coalition of the Left who are pushing the climate hoax in order to control you. Nice! You're on the right track.

Plus this is still a great song.


EDIT:  I meant the big corporations in general, not the oil companies.  We are living in a worldwide corporatocracy that pulls the strings of almost all our world leaders at the moment. That's gonna have to change somehow.
Slide work to make St. Duane Allman smile in heaven 
 Ghiaap wrote:



Anti-Semitism is still rising!! It's the pinacle of what many conspiracy thinkers believed in the past and still believe today! Make Love, Not Hate


Haven't they gone anti-paedophile now?

Now there's nothing defensible about these people but the accusation of pedophilia has a distinct advantage that it can be tossed around conveniently with little or no proof....
 Jelani wrote:



Screw you. Are you listening right now, Leftie? 


Now now, you've gone full MAGA.

Never go full MAGA.....
Just love it!  Thinking about this song couple days ago.. Looked it up on the tube and now Bill plays it.  Come on, it is amazing..happens a lot .. .on same vibe 
 TaniaB wrote:

This song is feeling particularly relevant today here in Canada.



Does it feel like you've suddenly discovered that you're living above a meth lab? 
Please play "Twilight Zone" after this, please play "Twilight Zone" after this . . .
 xkolibuul wrote:
 

Simply not accurate to imply  there are only two "sides", unless you mean Democrat and Republican parties in USA politics, which in no way represent the majority of the world's citizens. 

But taking your framing at face value, it is wilfully, farcically ignorant to claim that Democrats want to abolish fossil fuels.  Rather, they merely insist on having a plan to gradually phase out fossil fuels and replace them with renewables, many of which are already cost-competitive with fossil fuels on a level (no-subsidies) playing field.

So does that mean that you think having a plan puts one on the lunatic fringe?  Get back to me when you're ready for an intelligent, non-hyperbolic debate about our collective planetary future.



Seriously, these folks absolutely h8 welfare.  Unless it is fossil fuel subsidies.  Why not let all technologies compete with no corporate welfare and with an eye to the future of the planet.  The die offs are happening all around us and the west is on fire AND running out of water at the same time.  I guess only a Lunatic would want to do anything about it.
Proud Boys, we ALL know you're out there.  
one track of wonderful hundred tracks in Miami Vice !!!!!
Came on just to say: Anyone dissing this song gets a spanking!
Hey, look, this song's pretty good!
 dmiley wrote:

Your gullibility and ignorance are showing.

"I know you are, but what am I?"  "I'm rubber, you're glue." 

Grow up.
Slava Ukraini!
 Lindo525 wrote:

If you turn it down a little- you wont have to yell!


Hahaha!
This song is feeling particularly relevant today here in Canada.
Excellent!!   

jelgator wrote:

Given that your side wants to abolish fossil fuels, which are the basis of so many of our products that we rely on to survive, oh and which would eliminate air travel, I would ask:

Which side is the lunatic fringe?



 xkolibuul wrote:

 

Simply not accurate to imply  there are only two "sides", unless you mean Democrat and Republican parties in USA politics, which in no way represent the majority of the world's citizens. 

But taking your framing at face value, it is wilfully, farcically ignorant to claim that Democrats want to abolish fossil fuels.  Rather, they merely insist on having a plan to gradually phase out fossil fuels and replace them with renewables, many of which are already cost-competitive with fossil fuels on a level (no-subsidies) playing field.

So does that mean that you think having a plan puts one on the lunatic fringe?  Get back to me when you're ready for an intelligent, non-hyperbolic debate about our collective planetary future.


xkolibuul about nails it, imho. One year later, after an endless series of super storms, droughts, fires, and floods--not to mention the Covid plague, I can't help but wonder whether jelgator's "two sides"are actually those who would attempt to destroy all life on the planet vs. those who would try to save what we can. 

Message to jelgator and other climate change deniers: It has become painfully clear that we have to stop burning fossil fuels for energy. To sustain life on earth, we need a plan to transition to clean energy and conservation (of energy, of ecosystems). This won't happen overnight, but it must happen. The IPCC says we have about 8 years to get our act together. 

Edit: I just saw that my comment got several thumbs down. <sigh> That makes my point that this is a life and death struggle between: 

the banks, the fossil corporations,  the 1%, and the terminally ignorant 

vs. 

the rest of life on the planet.  
 maxvonevil wrote:

In no particular order, both the far right and far left both can suck it hard.

The vast majority who are at the sane center of things don't like none of y'all as all you do is scream hyperbolic talking points and injecting subterfuge, winding everyone up. Fuck you for that.  Hannity, Cuomo, Tucker and Lemon, all four should be drowned together like a batch of ugly kittens. Aah, that felt good.

Angry much? Nope. Here in my purple neighborhood we all stand a little different on issues, but guess what; a democrat can still borrow a lawnmower from his republican neighbor and vice versa. Sun still rises in the east ans sets in the west, no matter how hard you want to believe whatever you what to believe.

But back to my original point; as long as we got shrill idiots who want to defund the police howling against the worshipers of the orange fatass and both Media Red and Media Blue gives them all a microphone we're getting nowhere as a country.

Yes, it's a tall order, but leave both the Woke PC idiots and the Trumper assholes behind and let's get shit done.



I agree that there should and can be more common ground.   But your post fails in this regard - the Woke PC idiots never had any real power and were never close to imposing their ideas on the country.  On the other hand the MAGA crowd came very close and is still threatening to impose the full wrath of their corruption on the rest of us.  Right now moderate Democrats are calling the tune.  Moderate elected republicans are an endangered species. 

PC wokeness may exist in some corners, but is not a threat.  While fear of PC wokeness is ginned up by the right wing propaganda machine to divide us.
I wish they were back in hiding.
In no particular order, both the far right and far left both can suck it hard.

The vast majority who are at the sane center of things don't like none of y'all as all you do is scream hyperbolic talking points and injecting subterfuge, winding everyone up. Fuck you for that.  Hannity, Cuomo, Tucker and Lemon, all four should be drowned together like a batch of ugly kittens. Aah, that felt good.

Angry much? Nope. Here in my purple neighborhood we all stand a little different on issues, but guess what; a democrat can still borrow a lawnmower from his republican neighbor and vice versa. Sun still rises in the east ans sets in the west, no matter how hard you want to believe whatever you what to believe.

But back to my original point; as long as we got shrill idiots who want to defund the police howling against the worshipers of the orange fatass and both Media Red and Media Blue gives them all a microphone we're getting nowhere as a country.

Yes, it's a tall order, but leave both the Woke PC idiots and the Trumper assholes behind and let's get shit done.
Great Tune!!
 Relayer wrote:

Reading the wiki notes on the lyrics, song now has a new level of respect from me:

"Lunatic Fringe", the band's most famous song, is about what composer Tom Cochrane saw as an alarming rise of anti-Semitism in the 1970s, and was inspired by a book he read about Raoul Wallenberg.




Anti-Semitism is still rising!! It's the pinacle of what many conspiracy thinkers believed in the past and still believe today! Make Love, Not Hate
I like it!!!
 Relayer wrote:

Reading the wiki notes on the lyrics, song now has a new level of respect from me:

"Lunatic Fringe", the band's most famous song, is about what composer Tom Cochrane saw as an alarming rise of anti-Semitism in the 1970s, and was inspired by a book he read about Raoul Wallenberg.



I was curious about which 'lunatic-fringe' the song writer was referring to.  There are plenty on both political sides. Might have been helpful to drop a few more hints in the song. 
Amazing !!! Soundtrack in Miami Vice !!!!! Damned 80's!!!!!
I like this tune!!!
I would like to say that I always thought that this song was from Blue Oyster Cult and
also
that it's ironic that Lunatic Fringe has generated the discussion that precedes this.
 jpfueler wrote:


because no dem ever is a crim, huh? how many governors of La or Il got jailed now? How many of Dick's associates suicided after? Ain't like he was inpeached, then disbarred for lying under oath.
And boy howdy that Joe "Never Underestimate Joe's ability to Fuck shit up" Biden is doing our world standing and the world's economy so much good. 
But hey, no bad tweets from Orangeman, though the Taliban has a Twitter Official account.  The Adults supposedly in charge are Dementia riddled plagiarizing morons who have been wrong and every foreign policy stance since Tricky Dick's day (and very much basing decisions on Dicks poor foreign policies too by the by)



Have a nice day, too!
 tm wrote:

If I might interject some history: the Chinese negotiations to build trade alliance started with RICHARD NIXON(R) an impeached criminal… seems like a trend (R)’s being criminals and impeached. on this tune - reminds of Matthew Modine in Vision Quest! Great tune and a great film.



because no dem ever is a crim, huh? how many governors of La or Il got jailed now? How many of Dick's associates suicided after? Ain't like he was inpeached, then disbarred for lying under oath.
And boy howdy that Joe "Never Underestimate Joe's ability to Fuck shit up" Biden is doing our world standing and the world's economy so much good. 
But hey, no bad tweets from Orangeman, though the Taliban has a Twitter Official account.  The Adults supposedly in charge are Dementia riddled plagiarizing morons who have been wrong and every foreign policy stance since Tricky Dick's day (and very much basing decisions on Dicks poor foreign policies too by the by)
If I might interject some history: the Chinese negotiations to build trade alliance started with RICHARD NIXON(R) an impeached criminal… seems like a trend (R)’s being criminals and impeached. on this tune - reminds of Matthew Modine in Vision Quest! Great tune and a great film.
 freddyfender wrote:

Are you listening you dumb-ass Trumpers?




Screw you. Are you listening right now, Leftie? 
 xkolibuul wrote:
 

Simply not accurate to imply  there are only two "sides", unless you mean Democrat and Republican parties in USA politics, which in no way represent the majority of the world's citizens. 

But taking your framing at face value, it is wilfully, farcically ignorant to claim that Democrats want to abolish fossil fuels.  Rather, they merely insist on having a plan to gradually phase out fossil fuels and replace them with renewables, many of which are already cost-competitive with fossil fuels on a level (no-subsidies) playing field.

So does that mean that you think having a plan puts one on the lunatic fringe?  Get back to me when you're ready for an intelligent, non-hyperbolic debate about our collective planetary future.

Nice response to the ultra-simplistic "your side" comment, xkolibuul! 

Besides, it seems more and more evident to me that the D vs R distinction is only there to keep the populace at each others' throats and not aimed at those "in charge."  I'm fully on the side of the PEOPLE.  

Long Live RP and all the PEOPLE of the world!!
 carmelmik wrote:


please, reserve your anger you programmed leftie!  The Lunatic Fringe has been running this country into a subservient second class nation to China.  Wake up before you're to woke to be saved! TRUMP WON!


Go away.
 freddyfender wrote:

Are you listening you dumb-ass Trumpers?



please, reserve your anger you programmed leftie!  The Lunatic Fringe has been running this country into a subservient second class nation to China.  Wake up before you're to woke to be saved! TRUMP WON!
I've heard this song before. Tonight I listened well. Impressed.
Really hard to believe that this wasn't a top 40 song back in the day.  They played the hell out of it on the Philly rock stations.
Most Excellent Canadian Content that you have offered up ...but the Real unplayed jewel on the album is Thru the Curtain Saskatoon Saskatchewan Rocks !
 Lindo525 wrote:

If you turn it down a little- you wont have to yell!

 Funny!


 freddyfender wrote:
Are you listening you dumb-ass Trumpers?
 

ARE YOU LISTENING YOU DUMB-ASS TRUMPERS?
Before I had ever found out who sang this song, I had thought it was a Tom Petty song for some reason.  I know.  It's just me. 
Pink Floyd and The Cars mashup in a good way.
"Lunatic fringe
We all know you're out there
Can you feel the resistance?"

— Red Rider, Lunatic Fringe
Dear Chuckanut sandstone, Me wish I talk purdy like you. Big words, thank you. Try not to make simple peepholes feel so stupid later. Hurts. In admiration, from the local bike powered margarita blender babe... just started a fire for the hot tub. Skrew yew fossil fuels!!!
 freddyfender wrote:
Are you listening you dumb-ass Trumpers?
 
Your gullibility and ignorance are showing.
 jelgator wrote:

Given that your side wants to abolish fossil fuels, which are the basis of so many of our products that we rely on to survive, oh and which would eliminate air travel, I would ask: 

Which side is the lunatic fringe?

Simply not accurate to imply  there are only two "sides", unless you mean Democrat and Republican parties in USA politics, which in no way represent the majority of the world's citizens. 

But taking your framing at face value, it is wilfully, farcically ignorant to claim that Democrats want to abolish fossil fuels.  Rather, they merely insist on having a plan to gradually phase out fossil fuels and replace them with renewables, many of which are already cost-competitive with fossil fuels on a level (no-subsidies) playing field.

So does that mean that you think having a plan puts one on the lunatic fringe?  Get back to me when you're ready for an intelligent, non-hyperbolic debate about our collective planetary future.
 robin_at_domani wrote:
Pink Floyds wannabees
 
Rolling Stone critic wannabe.
 jelgator wrote:

Given that your side wants to abolish fossil fuels, which are the basis of so many of our products that we rely on to survive, oh and which would eliminate air travel, I would ask: 

Which side is the lunatic fringe?
 
It wouldn't eliminate air travel (or any of the other things you don't enumerate) - rather it would force the aviation industry to develop other fuels (hydrogen) or use other types of aircraft (airships etc.).  
Pink Floyds wannabees
 freddyfender wrote:
Are you listening you dumb-ass Trumpers?
 
Given that your side wants to abolish fossil fuels, which are the basis of so many of our products that we rely on to survive, oh and which would eliminate air travel, I would ask: 

Which side is the lunatic fringe?
One of the best songs from the 80's. Great on the VisionQuest soundtrack. And for workouts. And just for anything.
Such a fitting song for our times.
 njswede wrote:
This is for all you QAnon idiots out there!
 
Q says this is JFK Jr.'s favorite song.
This is for all you QAnon idiots out there!
 freddyfender wrote:
Are you listening you dumb-ass Trumpers?
 



                                 "COME ON, Man! " 
                                                                                        
Have experienced their live show many times, especially at the "Key to Bala".
 cloudymcloudface wrote:


Yes something off The Wall
 
Ooh, I need a dirty woman......


Add me to the list of people that thought this was a Floyd track until just now.
Man oh man does this song bring back memories of summer nights growing up in Atlanta, Georgia. 

a solid 9 based on pure nostalgia 
Regardless of rating number, the term "Most Excellent" perfectly describes this song.
 darnit2 wrote:
Holy crap. I’ve always loved this song but I suck at understand lyrics. Just read them. This is quite a song for our times
 
+1 to 9 darnit! Cuz of the lyrics....i love the groove on this one...LLRP!!
Holy crap. I’ve always loved this song but I suck at understand lyrics. Just read them. This is quite a song for our times
Makes me think of the movie Vision Quest. Grew up in the same town as Linda Fiorentino.
 bimmerfan739 wrote:
Just reading the Wiki. Had no idea this song WASN'T a hit because 'BCN had it in heavy rotation and back then that was my only station. Well, maybe 'FNX a bit.
 
Wait, what? This was on constantly on WRCN on Long Island back in the early 80s. 

(edit: just read the wiki - WRCN was a total AOR station. Not that anyone under 40 knows what that means anymore)
 primm wrote:
{#Devil_pimp}zesty ! would love to hear some tom Cochran solo ragged ass road is a good place to start
 

Pick up "Songs of a Circling Spirit" it's my go to when auditioning speakers.  When the sound stage is right, you can hear the depth of that recording.
 bimmerfan739 wrote:
Just reading the Wiki. Had no idea this song WASN'T a hit because 'BCN had it in heavy rotation and back then that was my only station. Well, maybe 'FNX a bit.
 

Got lots of airplay in Cleveland way back when.  Always a favorite.
 Zep wrote:
I keep thinking this is some Pink Floyd cut from the back end of "The Wall" that I somehow missed ... then I decide it really should be a Pink Floyd cut.
 

Yes something off The Wall
 bimmerfan739 wrote:
Just reading the Wiki. Had no idea this song WASN'T a hit because 'BCN had it in heavy rotation and back then that was my only station. Well, maybe 'FNX a bit.
 

Dwayne Glasscock lives!
Just reading the Wiki. Had no idea this song WASN'T a hit because 'BCN had it in heavy rotation and back then that was my only station. Well, maybe 'FNX a bit.
This one of the go to songs that Canadian radio stations use to fulfill their CanCon obligations.
Not a bad song. Just got overplayed up here in the great white north.
I keep thinking this is some Pink Floyd cut from the back end of "The Wall" that I somehow missed ... then I decide it really should be a Pink Floyd cut.
Pink Floyd is coming to mind.
The structure of this reminds me of a PF track I can't put my finger on.
 westslope wrote:

Cool.   The J. Geils Band part that is.

 Maple Leaf Gardens, Halloween 72, they opened for Yes, Close to the Edge tour, didn't work for me!!!
 westslope wrote:

Cool.   The J. Geils Band part that is.

 
 

vision quest, a young Linda Florantino unfurled, a mitza
August long weekend at Rockin' the Fields of Minnedosa.  About the 6th or 7th time I will see them and have never been disapointed!

Long Live Canadian Rock!!!!
For those of you who think that this song applies to the current situation, it doesn't.

The lyrics clearly state:

"But you won't get too far
'Cause you've got to blame someone
For your own confusion
We're on guard this time
Against your final solution.
We can hear you coming.
No, you're not going to win this time."

Obviously, they got too far. 
Obviously, we weren't on guard. 
And obviously, they won.
At least this time.
Reading the wiki notes on the lyrics, song now has a new level of respect from me:

"Lunatic Fringe", the band's most famous song, is about what composer Tom Cochrane saw as an alarming rise of anti-Semitism in the 1970s, and was inspired by a book he read about Raoul Wallenberg.
I read somewhere that this was the only song ever used a second time in all the Miami Vice seasons. Not sure if that's high praise but it's a kickass song, especially as a few listener's have noted when cranked to 11 while unwinding down a midnight highway.
I heard Tom Cochrane play in little old Vernon, BC at the O'Keefe Ranch a dozen years ago or so.  Danced our asses off on a stubble field for his entire set, and got home looking like we had run through a dust bowl - black as night (it was nighttime), but with white toothy smiles that ran from ear to ear.  Live rock in its finest form!!
{#Devil_pimp}zesty ! would love to hear some tom Cochran solo ragged ass road is a good place to start
Are you listening you dumb-ass Trumpers?
More Canadian 80s bands please! The Kings, Chilliwack, Frozen Ghost, Helix... ;). 
I love you! Thank you for the art!
Lunatic Fringe
     We all know you're out there 

Mainly because we see you on TV all the time and it appears that you are running for President.
That reminds me ... Wonder how Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are doin' today.
 stunix wrote:

yup, something rather Gilmorish in there.  the sound, the rolling riff or the slide.....

 
Always thought this was Joe Walsh......
Thank you RP for setting me straight again 
This is where I live these days. Definitely out there on the lunatic fringe. Yep....

Bill..you in a nostalgic mood today? lol
damn, this brings back memories. One of the first music videos I remember from when our house got MTV.
Next to RUSH, Tom's quite the artist.
Dangit. I like this, but for a bit I thought this might be "I got the key!"
 hagz21 wrote:
I just transported back to the Firebird I drove in high school. Windows down, cruisin the main drag. 

 
 It's 1982.  I'm back in my apartment in downtown Baltimore... Crankin it!! Yea Baby! (my neighbors never complained)
 primm wrote:
SINGER SONG WRITER FROM THIS BAND TOM COCHRANE WENT ON AND IS STILL WRITING AND PERFORMING VERY GOOD MATERIAL !

 
If you turn it down a little- you wont have to yell!
I just transported back to the Firebird I drove in high school. Windows down, cruisin the main drag. 
Tom Cochran =  another fine Canadian rocker
SINGER SONG WRITER FROM THIS BAND TOM COCHRANE WENT ON AND IS STILL WRITING AND PERFORMING VERY GOOD MATERIAL !
Holy Shazzuki! Hadn't thought of this in YEARS! Way back when I played this cassette to death....
 
 oldviolin wrote:
My boy's gonna play in the big leagues...

 
Excellent!
Love this band. Listened to them a lot when I was in my teens.
My boy's gonna play in the big leagues...
Thanks Bill haven't heard this for a while