Really, he threw a grenade right before the election and was a significant reason as to why fence-sitters voted for the failed real estate serial adulterer reality TV actor instead of for the person most qualified in our lifetime for the post.
If he were in the Democratsâ pocket, you think he wouldâve done that?
Whatabout #1,237,108. One major difference: She was never indicted (remember...it's her and Biden's DOJ) because she's not dumb enough to be caught on tape telling people "Yeah, I still have top secret files even though I told the DOJ I'd given them all back".
Maybe a whatabout, but the situations are very similar.
She was subpoenaed to turn over the documents and devices she destroyed. And Comey gave her a pass.
One major difference: She was never indicted (remember...it's her and Biden's DOJ) because she's not dumb enough to be caught on tape telling people "Yeah, I still have top secret files even though I told the DOJ I'd given them all back".
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Jun 9, 2023 - 10:25am
Even after being issued a subpoena in spring of 2022, he still retained more than 100 documents responsive to that subpoena. And he did so after his attorneys, in June 2022, attested that they had done a due diligence search and there were no further responsive documents. That really says it all. This was intentional, not inadvertent.
I think there's a spectrum of who needs attention. I run a red light because I'm distracted: oops. That was terrible and I'll do my best to never do it again.
I zoomed through town running every light because I'm a star. That was terrible, and the foot needs to come down.
nuance loses to false equivalence in the emotional hierarchy of political colosseum games.
Sorry but I'm not sure what you're driving at. If you want deeper understanding, then that your journey. Deeper understanding of why Trump got elected? I think there's enough articles that attempt that explanation and you either buy those explanations or don't. But even if we all agreed on the reasons, what could have been done that would have taken all the wind out of his sails when he was initially swept into office to have prevented that from happening?
Are you trying to say we all have a part in Trump's rise to power? I suppose being a part of American society that is... in-part... true. But if I am responsible for Trump (I absolutely did not vote for him btw... but I think you know that) where exactly does that responsibility begin/end? Am I supposed to mollify or change the attitudes of the Trump faithful who are disenfranchised? Great, show me to my locker and I'll clock in after my 10 hr workday and get right to it.
Ok veev. That's your telling. I'll have to respect it. I have been blessed with many friends, often in spite of myself. I'm striving for deeper understandings at this point in my life. Everyone in
their own time, in their own way. I hope peace will prevail but I temper that with peace of mind. Trump doesn't get a free pass, and neither does anyone else. Power is as power does. What is your power? Don't answer. It's a rhetorical question.
Sorry but I'm not sure what you're driving at. If you want deeper understanding, then that is your journey. Deeper understanding of why Trump got elected? I think there's enough articles that attempt that explanation and you either buy those explanations or don't. But even if we all agreed on the reasons, what could have been done that would have taken all the wind out of his sails when he was initially swept into office to have prevented that from happening?
Are you trying to say we all have a part in Trump's rise to power? I suppose being a part of American society that is... in-part... true. But if I am responsible for Trump (I absolutely did not vote for him btw... but I think you know that) where exactly does that responsibility begin/end? Am I supposed to mollify or change the attitudes of the Trump faithful who are disenfranchised? Great, show me to my locker and I'll clock in after my 10 hr workday and get right to it.
How he got here and what he did or didn't do (once here) are two different narratives. Who exactly could have predicted the lead-up to and actions that took place on Jan 6th and the appropriation of secret docs leading to his indictment? I knew that he was going to be a loon from his first lies regarding the size of his inauguration crowd but in the end I had no idea he was going to try and burn the whole house down and with him still in it.
I wholeheartedly agree that it is a shame that he put America in this predicament.
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Without debate I can accept your take on the matters at hand. At this point in my life I'm striving for a deeper understanding. I've been blessed with many friends, often in spite of myself
and hopefully will make many more before I brush off this dusty road wear. My experiences teach me many things and often take me many places I would rather not go.
People need to think that what they think matters. Sadly it does not. What they do, however, does. My hope for peace is tempered by the quest for peace of mind. I think you can agree that can be a struggle in every direction for an open and caring person, especially for a spiritual empath. I believe what I believe and I don't have to practice it. I know a storm is coming, and I'm not a weatherman. In the grand scheme Trump is irrelevant. A picture postcard from disaster beach on paradise island. I'm not selling life preservers. I'm giving them away. I'm woefully imperfect but my sight is not. See the future. Be the future. The past is dead.
But this isn't at all about me, is it? It's about the culpability for all our failings. Arrange your opinion accordingly. We all will in time.
Trump doesn't get a free pass, and neither does anyone else.
I think there's a spectrum of who needs attention. I run a red light because I'm distracted: oops. That was terrible and I'll do my best to never do it again.
I zoomed through town running every light because I'm a star. That was terrible, and must be addressed. It's disingenuous to think that the law applies uniformly to everyone in every situation for every transgression.
How he got here and what he did or didn't do (once here) are two different narratives. Who exactly could have predicted the lead-up to and actions that took place on Jan 6th and the appropriation of secret docs leading to his indictment? I knew that he was going to be a loon from his first lies regarding the size of his inauguration crowd but in the end I had no idea he was going to try and burn the whole house down and with him still in it.
I wholeheartedly agree that it is a shame that he put America in this predicament.
Ok veev. That's your telling. I'll have to respect it. I have been blessed with many friends, often in spite of myself. I'm striving for deeper understandings at this point in my life. Everyone in
their own time, in their own way. I hope peace will prevail but I temper that with peace of mind. Trump doesn't get a free pass, and neither does anyone else. Power is as power does. What is your power? Don't answer. It's a rhetorical question.
How he got here and what he did or didn't do (once here) are two different narratives. Who exactly could have predicted the lead-up to and actions that took place on Jan 6th and the appropriation of secret docs leading to his indictment? I knew that he was going to be a loon from his first lies regarding the size of his inauguration crowd but in the end I had no idea he was going to try and burn the whole house down and with him still in it.
I wholeheartedly agree that it is a shame that he put America in this predicament.
Ok veev. That's your telling. I'll have to respect it. I have been blessed with many friends, often in spite of myself. I'm striving for deeper understandings at this point in my life. Everyone in
their own time, in their own way. I hope peace will prevail but I temper that with peace of mind. Trump doesn't get a free pass, and neither does anyone else. Power is as power does. What is your power? Don't answer. It's a rhetorical question.
How he got here and what he did or didn't do (once here) are two different narratives. Who exactly could have predicted the lead-up to and actions that took place on Jan 6th and the appropriation of secret docs leading to his indictment? I knew that he was going to be a loon from his first lies regarding the size of his inauguration crowd but in the end I had no idea he was going to try and burn the whole house down and with him still in it.
I wholeheartedly agree that it is a shame that he put America in this predicament.
And it's not over. The "other half" of the indictments for the things he did in DC are coming soon.
The Right wants to keep saying that he's just the target of non-stop attempts to prevent him from being President, instead of accepting that he's a truly horrible human being, who has broken the law repeatedly over the past few years and the time has come to pay the tab on his criminal activities.
It's not the Dems prosecuting him to stop him from running for President; he's running for President to stop the prosecution.
In the macro political environs I think it's pretty clear how a guy with the history and merits of a Donald Trump could have risen to the stature of prominence in the cautionary tale still telling of our sad and sadder storybook. It's unfortunate that an open and honest objective mindset can't seem to prevail and direct the exploration of how we got here and where all the dissident operatives over the waning 20th century leading into the waxing 21st. cash their checks and balance accountability. Trump didn't get us here all by his lonesome. He rode in on the shoulders of a selfish and distracted population of purple bruises...
How he got here and what he did or didn't do (once here) are two different narratives. Who exactly could have predicted the lead-up to and actions that took place on Jan 6th and the appropriation of secret docs leading to his indictment? I knew that he was going to be a loon from his first lies regarding the size of his inauguration crowd but in the end I had no idea he was going to try and burn the whole house down and with him still in it.
I wholeheartedly agree that it is a shame that he put America in this predicament.
Of course, it involves her... she's part of the cabal running everything. She, Obama, Fauci, Soros, Comey, Biden, and a few others are keeping those brave enough to challenge them at bay through the use of the justice department and mainstream media.
These brave patriots are trying to save America! (send your money to Trump2024 ASAP to help before all is lost)
Yes, I stole from those people with my lies and chicanery.
But look at how the system is stacked against me!
The rules, police, lawyers, judges and courts, prisons are all against me. PROOF that I must be oppressed and it's a conspiracy!
This is a well-organized assessment of the similarities and differences between Trump and others with apparently similar activities (Clinton, Biden, Pence). It goes beyond the legal threshold to one of fairness (Comey didn't indict Clinton...is it fair to indict Trump?). He would have prosecuted Clinton, so it's only if DJT did something beyond her activities that he would prosecute Trump.
