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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 10:08pm

 kcar wrote:

Republicans should remember that Whelan was detained in 2018, during the Trump admin. So Donnie didn't have much success there either... If he tried at all.
 
His case is a bit more complicated.  Whelan is a Canadian-born former United States Marine with U.S., British, Irish and Canadian citizenship.

and this certainly doesn't help him either ...

After a court-martial conviction in January 2008 on multiple counts "related to larceny", he was sentenced to 60 days restriction, reduction to pay grade E-4, and a bad conduct discharge.[9][10] The specific charges against him included "attempted larceny, three specifications of dereliction of duty, making a false official statement, wrongfully using another’s social security number, and ten specifications of making and uttering checks without having sufficient funds in his account for payment."[11]
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On the other hand Bowe Bergdahl was worse, a deserter, and Obama gave away the store to get him back.  Most of the prisoners swapped for Bergdahl have returned to the battlefield.

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Not that I know for sure but Whelan is probably a republican and that has more to with why he is still there than anything else.  jmo ...
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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 9:40pm

Was wondering how this topic ended up in this thread until I backscrolled.  Duh, it figures.

Republicans, the source of all that is wrong with this country and the world for that matter.

If Griner was a republican she would still be sitting and rotting in Russia ...
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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 2:41pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Or IS it? Literally the last person you'd suspect, right?
I mean, who would ever suspect Julia Child or Cary Grant...




Dennis Rodman...
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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 2:28pm

 kcar wrote:

Griner would stick out like a sore thumb in Russia. She's 6' 9", Black and a professional basketball player. Not a great profile for a spy. 


Or IS it? Literally the last person you'd suspect, right?
I mean, who would ever suspect Julia Child or Cary Grant...


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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 1:34pm

APPEASEMENT!!!1!11!SURRENDER!MONKEYS!!1

black321

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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 1:17pm

Kidding aside, Griner put herself in that situation, while we put Whelan in his situation.

black321

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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 12:55pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Unless she was really a spy. Not impossible.


Nah, probably because BLM controls the dems. (JK)
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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 12:24pm

 Steely_D wrote:


If she's a spy, how are we to know if she really carried drugs? A good counterintelligence could set her up. (All that said, I tend to believe the story on its face. Just that weirder things have happened.)


Griner would stick out like a sore thumb in Russia. She's 6' 9", Black and a professional basketball player. Not a great profile for a spy. 

Russia has accused Paul Whelan of being a spy, which is why Russia refused to include him in the negotiations about Griner. Apparently the Biden admin has tried to get Whelan released but those efforts have gone nowhere.

https://www.npr.org/live-updat...

Republicans should remember that Whelan was detained in 2018, during the Trump admin. So Donnie didn't have much success there either... If he tried at all.
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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 12:18pm

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 weirder things have happened.



and had movies made about them.

I wanted to hear how she hung her jailer on a coathook.


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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 11:22am

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If she's a spy that carries illegal drugs through Soviet airport security, then we should have left her there.

I think it's a pretty weak, overly political move for Biden.  Whelan should have been part of any deal.



If she's a spy, how are we to know if she really carried drugs? A good counterintelligence could set her up. (All that said, I tend to believe the story on its face. Just that weirder things have happened.)

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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 11:05am

 Steely_D wrote:
Unless she was really a spy. Not impossible.

If she's a spy that carries illegal drugs through Soviet airport security, then we should have left her there.

I think it's a pretty weak, overly political move for Biden.  Whelan should have been part of any deal.

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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 10:47am

 black321 wrote:


Certainly dont agree with how republicans are positioning this, and happy she is back (even though she brought this on herself), but it does look like we got the raw end of the deal. 


Unless she was really a spy. Not impossible.
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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 10:35am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

This kovfefe over Griner takes of eyes off the REAL ISSUE:
https://twitter.com/AdamParkho...
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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 10:29am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Certainly dont agree with how republicans are positioning this, and happy she is back (even though she brought this on herself), but it does look like we got the raw end of the deal. 
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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 10:18am

 kurtster wrote:

I call it projection.  but that's just me.  

By definition!


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Posted: Dec 8, 2022 - 9:39am

Biden bad! Gay basketball player not a good 'Merican! Something, something... GAZPACHO!
kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2022 - 9:47pm

 R_P wrote:
 Steely_D wrote:
Dupes of the Russian/Chinese social media misinformation campaign (...)

Oh noes. Foreign interference in a perfect union! Authoritarian barbarians at the gates!
 
I call it projection.  but that's just me.  
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Posted: Nov 29, 2022 - 2:19pm

 Steely_D wrote:
Dupes of the Russian/Chinese social media misinformation campaign (...)

Oh noes. Foreign interference in a perfect union! Authoritarian barbarians at the gates!
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Posted: Nov 29, 2022 - 5:08am

 Coaxial wrote:

We used to call people who lost and then raised hell about the process, poor sports...Today it seems it's much more sinister and makes me fear for the sanity of a large segment of our society. Seriously, Doc, what do you make of these politicians, and the people who agree with them, that seem to be living in an alternate reality?

Dupes of the Russian/Chinese social media misinformation campaign, along with legit racists and bullies who see their opportunity for the first time since the marches.
What happened to a nation that responded to (crass consumerism) messages like this: 

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Posted: Nov 29, 2022 - 5:04am

 Steely_D wrote:

G.O.P.-Controlled County in Arizona Holds Up Election Results

"The Cochise County board of supervisors refused to certify the results, although members cited no issues with the count or problems in the vote.
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Ms. Judd described the move as a protest over the election in Maricopa County, where Republican candidates have claimed — with no evidence — widespread voter disenfranchisement, largely as a result of ballot printing errors." These idiots would be having seizures if Democrats did the same. Hypocrites.
 
We used to call people who lost and then raised hell about the process, poor sports...Today it seems it's much more sinister and makes me fear for the sanity of a large segment of our society. Seriously, Doc, what do you make of these politicians, and the people who agree with them, that seem to be living in an alternate reality?
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