That seems all too logical. And where are your spiffy labels? Try again!
LOL!
The problem with NoEnzLefttoSplit? He is a furriner. Can't run for the presidency. Come to think of it, Arnold Schwarzenegger seems to have presidential qualities but he too is foreign born.
When did being born in the USA make one a law-abiding, democracy-loving patriot?
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Jan 12, 2021 - 6:20am
NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
For someone who professes to think outside of the box you seem pretty blind to what is staring you in the face.
The Democratic party is only united at the moment because of Trump. As soon as that threat has waned/disappeared it will need a Herculean effort to keep the party together.
The Republicans have been struggling for a while now to find a viable platform/voice. Remember how unwilling they were to support Trump back in 2016 and only grudgingly came over when they saw him win votes? In the end they made their Faustian pact with him out of political expediency.
Trouble is, personality politics bears the seeds of its own downfall, and that is playing out before our eyes right now. The demographics of the US have changed. There are many grave issues confronting the nation. There is plenty there for a number of different party platforms and I have no doubt that these will spring up to fill the vacuum.
The only real threat of totalitarian rule to the US right now is the wild mob spitting on the rule of law.
That seems all too logical. And where are your spiffy labels? Try again!
What I find confusing is how someone who is a member of a third party and an advocate for them would support one party rule, which is what you seem to approve of and is happening.
For someone who professes to think outside of the box you seem pretty blind to what is staring you in the face.
The Democratic party is only united at the moment because of Trump. As soon as that threat has waned/disappeared it will need a Herculean effort to keep the party together.
The Republicans have been struggling for a while now to find a viable platform/voice. Remember how unwilling they were to support Trump back in 2016 and only grudgingly came over when they saw him win votes? In the end they made their Faustian pact with him out of political expediency.
Trouble is, personality politics bears the seeds of its own downfall, and that is playing out before our eyes right now. The demographics of the US have changed. There are many grave issues confronting the nation. There is plenty there for a number of different party platforms and I have no doubt that these will spring up to fill the vacuum.
The only real threat of totalitarian rule to the US right now is the wild mob spitting on the rule of law.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Jan 12, 2021 - 6:16am
kurtster wrote:
Fear not, Big Tech is going full tilt in cancelling the Republican Party and anyone else who disagrees with them, the Democratic Party and the Legacy Media. These three, Big Tech, the Democratic Party and the Legacy Media are all one and the same. They have now fully exposed themselves and their goals. One party rule by way of censorship and control of public discourse.
The Thought Police have risen and are claiming their rightful place in the New World Order and are now wielding their unrestricted monopolistic power. Remember when the NWO was dismissed as some wild conspiracy theory, anyone ? China is their model for controlling the USA. Big Tech has helped the CCP develop and test all of the social monitoring tools and the development and implementation of Social Scorecards to punish those who disobey or reward those who comply.
That is what is happening to us here in the USA at this very point in time.
imho ...
You canât tell the players without a program!
But I am a little confused. Is the Legacy Media different than the Mainstream Media? Or is it just a cooler new label?
Big Tech! That does sound menacing.
And some oldies, but goodies: Thought Police and the New World Order.
Is the Deep State not part of this Death Star cabal (feel free to use this one)? Or do you just need a small edit?
What I find confusing is how someone who is a member of a third party and an advocate for them would support one party rule, which is what you seem to approve of and is happening.
Wait, so the party that spent 8 years stonewalling Obama, and 4 years under trump ramming through anything that fit their agenda, then just sponsored a riot/insurrection to overthrow the will of the people is willing to share power and compromise? Good to know.
Fear not, Big Tech is going full tilt in cancelling the Republican Party and anyone else who disagrees with them, the Democratic Party and the Legacy Media. These three, Big Tech, the Democratic Party and the Legacy Media are all one and the same. They have now fully exposed themselves and their goals. One party rule by way of censorship and control of public discourse.
The Thought Police have risen and are claiming their rightful place in the New World Order and are now wielding their unrestricted monopolistic power. Remember when the NWO was dismissed as some wild conspiracy theory, anyone ? China is their model for controlling the USA. Big Tech has helped the CCP develop and test all of the social monitoring tools and the development and implementation of Social Scorecards to punish those who disobey or reward those who comply.
That is what is happening to us here in the USA at this very point in time.
imho ...
Kurt,
There are some facts that you need to accept and confirm before anything you say holds even the slightest merit. They include:
- There is no evidence that the election in November was stolen. NOTHING has been proven, anywhere. If it has, tell us where. - Trump was wrong to call state legislatures and asking them to "find" votes, in effect attempting to override the will of the voters. - Trump was wrong to suggest anything violent towards the US Congress as they counted the votes on Wednesday, and is partially responsible for what happened at the Capital. - Trump should have reacted to the siege at the capital and sent in the National Guard. The #2 and #3 heads of our government were under attack, and he did nothing.
"They all hate us" and "they're out to get us" doesn't work anymore. Trump's unwillingness to accept defeat by blaming others is now killing people and putting additional lives at risk. These people aren't patriots, they're terrorists. Legacy media, Dems, socialism, Russia, China....all make for nice conspiracy theories, but aren't the issue right now: Trump is.
What I find confusing is how someone who is a member of a third party and an advocate for them would support one party rule, which is what you seem to approve of and is happening.
Thatâs extrapolating a bit too far. The issue, to me, is whether the USA is well-served by the GOP and its subservience to Trump. Remember, it posted no platform for this swing at the Presidency. All it had - all it had - was the cult of personality. And a crappy, reprehensible personality at that. Seriously - he put his daughter and son-in-law in official positions at the White House? Thereâs no way to spin that as appropriate. And thatâs just one thing that the GOP supported.
It is Big tech who writes the headlines that guide you.
Sorry, I captured this before you edited it.
Yeah, I thought better of setting you up for that one, and my edit was still accurate. I suppose you could then say it's turtles all the way down and the people who live around me are misguided as well.
But, looking at what the GOP stands for (no platform, just the party of Trump), I know I'm correct. I've watched him, not his spin, and he's an embarrassment that's being contained by a group of buffers. Watching him talk never fails to disappoint. That's not the media fooling me.
What I find confusing is how someone who is a member of a third party and an advocate for them would support one party rule, which is what you seem to approve of and is happening.
It is Big tech who writes the headlines that guide you.
Sorry, I captured this before you edited it.
Yeah, I thought better of setting you up for that one, and my edit was still accurate. I suppose you could then say it's turtles all the way down and the people who live around me are misguided as well.
But, looking at what the GOP stands for (no platform, just the party of Trump), I know I'm correct. I've watched him, not his spin, and he's an embarrassment that's being contained by a group of buffers. Watching him talk never fails to disappoint. That's not the media fooling me.
Fear not, Big Tech is going full tilt in cancelling the Republican Party and anyone else who disagrees with them,
Excellent. Most problems in the nation are caused by the GOP and the backlash against its institutionalized racism, financial mismanagement, and xenophobia, last I checked the headlines.
It is Big tech who writes the headlines that guide you.
Fear not, Big Tech is going full tilt in cancelling the Republican Party and anyone else who disagrees with them,
Excellent. Most problems in the nation are caused by the GOP and the backlash against its institutionalized racism, financial mismanagement, and xenophobia, last I checked the pulse of the folks around me.
Fear not, Big Tech is going full tilt in cancelling the Republican Party and anyone else who disagrees with them, the Democratic Party and the Legacy Media. These three, Big Tech, the Democratic Party and the Legacy Media are all one and the same. They have now fully exposed themselves and their goals. One party rule by way of censorship and control of public discourse.
The Thought Police have risen and are claiming their rightful place in the New World Order and are now wielding their unrestricted monopolistic power. Remember when the NWO was dismissed as some wild conspiracy theory, anyone ? China is their model for controlling the USA. Big Tech has helped the CCP develop and test all of the social monitoring tools and the development and implementation of Social Scorecards to punish those who disobey or reward those who comply.
That is what is happening to us here in the USA at this very point in time.
In todayâs Republican Party, the path to power is to build up a lie in order to overturn democracy. At least that is what Senator Josh Hawley was telling us when he offered a clenched-fist salute to the pro-Trump mob before it ransacked the Capitol, and it is the same message he delivered on the floor of the Senate in the aftermath of the attack, when he doubled down on the lies about electoral fraud that incited the insurrection in the first place. How did we get to the point where one of the bright young stars of the Republican Party appears to be at war with both truth and democracy?
Mr. Hawley himself, as it happens, has been making the answer plain for some time. Itâs just a matter of listening to what he has been saying. (...)
In other words, Mr. Hawleyâs idea of freedom is the freedom to conform to what he and his preferred religious authorities know to be right. Mr. Hawley is not shy about making the point explicit. In a 2017 speech to the American Renewal Project, he declared â paraphrasing the Dutch Reformed theologian and onetime prime minister Abraham Kuyper â âThere is not one square inch of all creation over which Jesus Christ is not Lord.â Mr. Kuyper is perhaps best known for his claim that Christianity has sole legitimate authority over all aspects of human life.
âWe are called to take that message into every sphere of life that we touch, including the political realm,â Mr. Hawley said. âThat is our charge. To take the Lordship of Christ, that message, into the public realm, and to seek the obedience of the nations. Of our nation!â
Mr. Hawley has built his political career among people who believe that Shariah is just around the corner even as they attempt to secure privileges for their preferred religious groups to discriminate against those of whom they disapprove. Before he won election as a senator, he worked for Becket, a legal advocacy group that often coordinates with the right-wing legal juggernaut the Alliance Defending Freedom. He is a familiar presence on the Christian right media circuit. (...)
The line of thought here is starkly binary and nihilistic. It says that human existence in an inevitably pluralistic, modern society committed to equality is inherently worthless. It comes with the idea that a right-minded elite of religiously pure individuals should aim to capture the levers of government, then use that power to rescue society from eternal darkness and reshape it in accord with a divinely-approved view of righteousness.
At the heart of Mr. Hawleyâs condemnation of our terrifyingly Pelagian world lies a dark conclusion about the achievements of modern, liberal, pluralistic societies. When he was still attorney general, William Barr articulated this conclusion in a speech at the University of Notre Dame Law School, where he blamed âthe growing ascendancy of secularismâ for amplifying âvirtually every measure of social pathology,â and maintained that âfree government was only suitable and sustainable for a religious people.â
Christian nationalistsâ acceptance of President Trumpâs spectacular turpitude these past four years was a good measure of just how dire they think our situation is. Even a corrupt sociopath was better, in their eyes, than the horrifying freedom that religious moderates and liberals, along with the many Americans who donât happen to be religious, offer the world. (...)
I.e. a theocrat.
He's a constitutional lawyer who has argued in front of the supreme court. It makes his current actions that more astonishing. He's a hypocrite through and through, and should be shunned and probably disbarred.
In todayâs Republican Party, the path to power is to build up a lie in order to overturn democracy. At least that is what Senator Josh Hawley was telling us when he offered a clenched-fist salute to the pro-Trump mob before it ransacked the Capitol, and it is the same message he delivered on the floor of the Senate in the aftermath of the attack, when he doubled down on the lies about electoral fraud that incited the insurrection in the first place. How did we get to the point where one of the bright young stars of the Republican Party appears to be at war with both truth and democracy?
Mr. Hawley himself, as it happens, has been making the answer plain for some time. Itâs just a matter of listening to what he has been saying. (...)
In other words, Mr. Hawleyâs idea of freedom is the freedom to conform to what he and his preferred religious authorities know to be right. Mr. Hawley is not shy about making the point explicit. In a 2017 speech to the American Renewal Project, he declared â paraphrasing the Dutch Reformed theologian and onetime prime minister Abraham Kuyper â âThere is not one square inch of all creation over which Jesus Christ is not Lord.â Mr. Kuyper is perhaps best known for his claim that Christianity has sole legitimate authority over all aspects of human life.
âWe are called to take that message into every sphere of life that we touch, including the political realm,â Mr. Hawley said. âThat is our charge. To take the Lordship of Christ, that message, into the public realm, and to seek the obedience of the nations. Of our nation!â
Mr. Hawley has built his political career among people who believe that Shariah is just around the corner even as they attempt to secure privileges for their preferred religious groups to discriminate against those of whom they disapprove. Before he won election as a senator, he worked for Becket, a legal advocacy group that often coordinates with the right-wing legal juggernaut the Alliance Defending Freedom. He is a familiar presence on the Christian right media circuit. (...)
The
line of thought here is starkly binary and nihilistic. It says that
human existence in an inevitably pluralistic, modern society committed
to equality is inherently worthless. It comes with the idea that a
right-minded elite of religiously pure individuals should aim to capture
the levers of government, then use that power to rescue society from
eternal darkness and reshape it in accord with a divinely-approved view
of righteousness.
At
the heart of Mr. Hawleyâs condemnation of our terrifyingly Pelagian
world lies a dark conclusion about the achievements of modern, liberal,
pluralistic societies. When he was still attorney general, William Barr
articulated this conclusion in a speech
at the University of Notre Dame Law School, where he blamed âthe
growing ascendancy of secularismâ for amplifying âvirtually every
measure of social pathology,â and maintained that âfree government was
only suitable and sustainable for a religious people.â
Christian nationalistsâ acceptance of President Trumpâs spectacular turpitude these past four years was a good measure of just how dire they think our situation is. Even a corrupt sociopath was better, in their eyes, than the horrifying freedom that religious moderates and liberals, along with the many Americans who donât happen to be religious, offer the world. (...)
'This is an institution that needs to be salvaged,' conservative commentator says
Conservative commentator David Frum, an author and staff writer at The Atlantic, has been a fierce critic of U.S. President Donald Trump. (Phillip Faraone/Getty Images)
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"An impeachment vote that involves Republicans is a chance for the party to cleanse itself and redeem itself and prepare for the future."
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David Frum is the son of Barbara Frum, an iconic broadcaster at the CBC. At one point, she conducted the best political interviews of any media outlet in North America.
You're not the only one who said that that long ago. Trump was pretty much the last hope to put some fight back into this party of spineless wimps who quite frankly have gotten everything that they have earned by trying to be nice and liked by the media. That was never going to happen.
It is now pretty much over. The democratic party has finally taken over the country, permanently.
Trump wasn't the last hope. Huntsman was a reasonable option. Trump was just the bully that the "spineless wimps" in charge of the party ran in his stead, hoping for a businessman to save the country. Of course, he's a corrupt, multi-bankrupt, politically-naive, reality TV performer with a fragile ego - but...he's a businessman. That didn't really work out for the majority of the nation, did it?
Said it before: I would've voted Huntsman instead of Obama's second term because the GOP was so obsessed with not letting him get anything done. (Mitch McConnell's "one term President" fixation, instead of working in tandem with him to improve the nation using negotiation and compromise)
When the GOP didn't even come up with a platform for this Presidential election, that was the sign: they're no longer representing the ideas of the Republican Party. They're just running a popularity contest. And he, ultimately, is only popular with a minority of the nation.
umm.. damn. 
