Location: 543 miles west of Paradis,1491 miles eas Gender:
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Jan 29, 2021 - 4:37am
Jiggz wrote:
Coaxial wrote:
Thanks, G. Hope you and the missus are doing well? Cheers!
Sorry i missed this, Randy! Yeh, all good-oh and whatnot with myself, missus and little guy Luke. Prepping for emigration later this year.... basically getting out while it's still possible. I hope you and yours are all well and surviving the 'Rona crap ok? Chin up! Smile and box on etc! Yowzers and what-ho!
Glad to see this...Take good care of each other. Cheers!
Thanks, G. Hope you and the missus are doing well? Cheers!
Sorry i missed this, Randy! Yeh, all good-oh and whatnot with myself, missus and little guy Luke. Prepping for emigration later this year.... basically getting out while it's still possible. I hope you and yours are all well and surviving the 'Rona crap ok? Chin up! Smile and box on etc! Yowzers and what-ho!
Just saw this. No, I never it meant you were kidding when I saw the
emoji. It was never clear what it was supposed to be other than something like you are my master and were whipping me back to reality or something.
Kurt, look closely: is the face in the emoji smiling or not?
The emoji is teasing, not whipping you back to reality. (what dark corners of the world do you visit where that is a possibility?)
You might want to improve the quality of your herbage, buddy. It could straighten out your political views as well. . (only half-kidding about the politics).
I never looked that hard at the emoji. Another case of communications 101, message sent is not the message received.
Now if you had either added a "jk" as in just kidding or or or , that would have been more clear.
It is on you, not me to be clear in the message you send.
But then again, what I think does not matter, it is what you think that is important.
I don't mind slanted journalism. Good engaged journalism, for example, will make an argument but will also provide as much context and opposing views to give the reader a sense of the full debate.
Journalism can address consumers with respect or they can treat them with the disdain that many consumers insist upon. Some of the emotional ramping on CNN and others is embarrassing.
How do you teach people to appreciate quality journalism? There is lots of it out there if one cares to look. If news requires ketchup, in this case entertainment, in order to be enthusiastically consumed. If many people see the world in Dark Ages terms, us vs. them, good vs. evil, virtue vs. sin, will marke-responsive media ever change?
just an observation: where's the trustworthy news/sources? i see a ton of opinion pieces on cnn, fox, etc.
some standards and critical thought would be nice if we could get it
maybe we should incentivize that and not the theater we have now
regards
Most reputable news outlets keep a more-or-less hard firewall between the news division and the editorial division. So I wouldn't base my trust totally on the opinion pieces.
Christian Science Monitor I'm not an avid reader of it, or adherent, but it's long had a reputation of being among the most unbiased of sources - ymmv "Despite its name, the Monitor is not a religious-themed paper, and does not promote the doctrine of its patron church. However, at its founder Eddy's request, a daily religious article has appeared near the end of every issue of the Monitor. The paper has been known for avoiding sensationalism, producing a 'distinctive brand of nonhysterical journalism'".
I try, with a lot of difficulty, to think that Al Jazeera is impartial. But the name is too big of an impediment.
just an observation: where's the trustworthy news/sources? i see a ton of opinion pieces on cnn, fox, etc. some standards and critical thought would be nice if we could get it maybe we should incentivize that and not the theater we have now regards
Christian Science Monitor I'm not an avid reader of it, or adherent, but it's long had a reputation of being among the most unbiased of sources - ymmv "Despite its name, the Monitor is not a religious-themed paper, and does not promote the doctrine of its patron church. However, at its founder Eddy's request, a daily religious article has appeared near the end of every issue of the Monitor. The paper has been known for avoiding sensationalism, producing a 'distinctive brand of nonhysterical journalism'".
The name is a problem...but I would agree it is generally objective. There is always an opinion or position, but it's up to the reader to balance them against other sources and determine what's right for themself.
A big problem now is the abundance of free "news". Telling someone to pay for multiple sources that conflict instead of reading Facebook and what the algo sends them is a hard sell. I am paying for 4 or 5 news outlets, and I often wonder if it's worthwhile.
Our biggest issue is our societal disinterest in facts. It's much easier to accept someone else's opinion than it is to form one on our own, and the algorithms quickly size us up and send us what we seem to like so we stay put on their platform. The answer may be in an algorithm that balances what we've read with the alternative view. Tech got us into this mess... maybe it can help get us out (but I doubt it).
We need to teach our children logic and reason, not answers.
just an observation: where's the trustworthy news/sources? i see a ton of opinion pieces on cnn, fox, etc. some standards and critical thought would be nice if we could get it maybe we should incentivize that and not the theater we have now regards
Christian Science Monitor I'm not an avid reader of it, or adherent, but it's long had a reputation of being among the most unbiased of sources - ymmv "Despite its name, the Monitor is not a religious-themed paper, and does not promote the doctrine of its patron church. However, at its founder Eddy's request, a daily religious article has appeared near the end of every issue of the Monitor. The paper has been known for avoiding sensationalism, producing a 'distinctive brand of nonhysterical journalism'".
Jiggz, it's really not hard. Live in a fact-based world, support your claims with relevant evidence from trustworthy sources, reject others' propaganda and your voice will find a wider audience.
But if you want to live in Trumper's Dreamworld, you're not going to get much more attention than a lapdog.
just an observation: where's the trustworthy news/sources? i see a ton of opinion pieces on cnn, fox, etc.
some standards and critical thought would be nice if we could get it
maybe we should incentivize that and not the theater we have now
Jiggz, it's really not hard. Live in a fact-based world, support your claims with relevant evidence from trustworthy sources, reject others' propaganda and your voice will find a wider audience.
But if you want to live in Trumper's Dreamworld, you're not going to get much more attention than a lapdog.
... twisting narratives of who did what when, ....Even down to infiltrating their protest marches with your own mobs to spark violence and then twisting the story into what suits you? ...
How easily the South African apartheid government of the 1970's and 1980's has been recreated by the legacy media, the Democratic Party, big tech, big business, antifa, BLM etc etc. . Well done! You're winning now!
Shutting down dissenting voices, banning free speech, twisting narratives of who did what when, refusing to give people with grave concerns about election irregularities a chance to properly present their case and have access to information...the list goes on and the similarities are not lost on many people, not just here in South Africa. Cancelling people from social media, shutting down people's businesses by deplatforming them from online vendors facilities, labelling a massive chunk of your fellow Americans 'domestic terrorists', refusing them an avenue to connect with each other and make their opinions heard....brilliant! Shutting down banking facilities, looking for faces in videos of crowds, scanning their social media pages and then scrubbing them from Airbnb....I could go on and on. Even down to infiltrating their protest marches with your own mobs to spark violence and then twisting the story into what suits you?
Do you seriously think those who see things differently to you are just going to go away? You are more ignorant than people outside of America had ever even imagined.
You are going to turn Trump into some kind of latter day Mandela to his followers, they will boycott your society and your businesses, keep their cash out of your hands, build their own commnicaton methods and platforms, even go underground...organise....and the come back to haunt you. Go ahead, impeach Trump, ban him, shut him down, force his supporters through public live-on-TV struggle sessions, take away their jobs and possessions and voices, send them to re-education camps.....keep going, you are so winning!
It's despicable, stupid and I am ashamed to see friends supporting this stupidity, inbetween really worrying about them.
You think Trump supporters have been played? You have no idea what you are talking about.
The media you follow ?- NYT, CNN, MSNBC, WP...whatever - just like the State-run media of the apartheid regime. Banning dissenting views from being aired and heard? - yeh, the apartheid regime did that too on radio, in print. The words ANC and Nelson Mandela were banned from being spoken. It was illegal to have a picture of Mandela in your house. Keep going, you are on the right path for sure. The illegitimate President you support?....just like those of the apartheid regime. Looking the other way or worse - calling the looting and riots of last year peaceful protests? - just like the actions of our erstwhile police and military being called safety and security measures. Infiltrating a massive peaceful protest and then triggering violent action and then calling it insurrection? - been there, done that and still have the T-shirt. Your wheels of justice and security agencies silent on the things that need to be investigated and dealt with, then suddenly becoming vocal and totally dedicated to rounding up and arresting those responsible for the deplorable violence of last week? Yeh, you learnt that from our guys.
It's disgusting to see.
Good luck , you are gonna need it because you are now so f&^ked.
I suggest you go and read the first chapter of Solzhenitsyns' The Gulag Archipelago. Then grow up. Then wake up.
Just saw this. No, I never it meant you were kidding when I saw the
emoji. It was never clear what it was supposed to be other than something like you are my master and were whipping me back to reality or something.
Kurt, look closely: is the face in the emoji smiling or not?
The emoji is teasing, not whipping you back to reality. (what dark corners of the world do you visit where that is a possibility?)
You might want to improve the quality of your herbage, buddy. It could straighten out your political views as well. . (only half-kidding about the politics).
or 
or 
, that would have been more clear.
precious!
