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cc_rider

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020 - 8:24am



 kcar wrote:


 rgio wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
 
Kurt, we finally agree on something.  I'm skeptical that the bag bans on a town by town basis do much.  NJ has one coming in a few years, which makes a bit more sense.  As others noted, bags find their way into everything...everywhere. 

I would totally agree with taxing plastic based on its environmental impact.  Charge $1 for a plastic bag at the grocery store.  See how long it takes for people to change. 

I think it's interesting that you post this in the Democratic Party thread.  I'd guess it was delivered to you with its own biases and assumptions.

 

My opinion is based on anecdotal eyeball evidence: 

Before DC imposed a 5-cent charge for plastic bags, they were floating on the streets and sidewalks all around town. After the tax, they disappeared. 

I paid that 5-cent charge once at the grocery store and it stuck in my craw. The store sold re-usable cloth bags for 99 cents and let you exchange worn-out ones for new bags. I have a huge stash of 'em at my place. 
 
I noticed the same thing at, of all places, the dump. The fences and trees around the place were covered with the damn things, stuck like tumbleweeds. Staff would periodically clean them off - a considerable expense passed along to taxpayers. After the ban started, much fewer bags = much less expense. We've since moved to a place without a bag ban, and they're the single most common plastic trash item. Worse, they're often stuck in difficult-to-reach places. At least heavier plastic trash is generally on the ground. Sure there's always gonna be jerkwads who dump their trash roadside, but at least it stays mostly in one place, instead of floating hither and yon.

I still have mixed feelings about bag bans, but anecdotal evidence shows they reduce visible trash.
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kcar

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Posted: Nov 26, 2020 - 3:41am



 rgio wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
 
Kurt, we finally agree on something.  I'm skeptical that the bag bans on a town by town basis do much.  NJ has one coming in a few years, which makes a bit more sense.  As others noted, bags find their way into everything...everywhere. 

I would totally agree with taxing plastic based on its environmental impact.  Charge $1 for a plastic bag at the grocery store.  See how long it takes for people to change. 

I think it's interesting that you post this in the Democratic Party thread.  I'd guess it was delivered to you with its own biases and assumptions.

 

My opinion is based on anecdotal eyeball evidence: 

Before DC imposed a 5-cent charge for plastic bags, they were floating on the streets and sidewalks all around town. After the tax, they disappeared. 

I paid that 5-cent charge once at the grocery store and it stuck in my craw. The store sold re-usable cloth bags for 99 cents and let you exchange worn-out ones for new bags. I have a huge stash of 'em at my place. 
kurtster

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Posted: Nov 25, 2020 - 11:50pm

 islander wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

This is where the shoe fit best.

It was a message in a bottle that washed up on the shore of my little island
 

You keep using that word, I  do not think it means what you think it means.

 
Figures.  Metaphors.  You kids.  Maybe a generational thing ...

But it doesn't matter what you think it means. 

It matters what I think it means and I think that the message I sent was the one received since I wasn't speaking to you to begin with.

OBTW ... I once heard that at low tide no man is an islander.

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islander

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Posted: Nov 25, 2020 - 9:05pm



 kurtster wrote:

This is where the shoe fit best.

It was a message in a bottle that washed up on the shore of my little island
 

You keep using that word, I  do not think it means what you think it means.



kurtster

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Posted: Nov 25, 2020 - 6:14pm

 rgio wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
 
Kurt, we finally agree on something.  I'm skeptical that the bag bans on a town by town basis do much.  NJ has one coming in a few years, which makes a bit more sense.  As others noted, bags find their way into everything...everywhere. 

I would totally agree with taxing plastic based on its environmental impact.  Charge $1 for a plastic bag at the grocery store.  See how long it takes for people to change. 

I think it's interesting that you post this in the Democratic Party thread. 

I'd guess it was delivered to you with its own biases and assumptions.


 
This is where the shoe fit best.

It was a message in a bottle that washed up on the shore of my little island. 
rgio

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Posted: Nov 25, 2020 - 1:14pm



 kurtster wrote:
 
Kurt, we finally agree on something.  I'm skeptical that the bag bans on a town by town basis do much.  NJ has one coming in a few years, which makes a bit more sense.  As others noted, bags find their way into everything...everywhere. 

I would totally agree with taxing plastic based on its environmental impact.  Charge $1 for a plastic bag at the grocery store.  See how long it takes for people to change. 

I think it's interesting that you post this in the Democratic Party thread.  I'd guess it was delivered to you with its own biases and assumptions.

Isabeau

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Posted: Nov 25, 2020 - 12:47pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
 
There hasn't been a milk jug or a bottle of mustard stuck in the tree across the street for 4 years. 

 

or flamin' rivers. CA and CO Interstates are a different story.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Nov 25, 2020 - 12:43pm



 kurtster wrote:
 
There hasn't been a milk jug or a bottle of mustard stuck in the tree across the street for 4 years. 

black321

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Posted: Nov 25, 2020 - 12:38pm



 kurtster wrote:
 
Didnt realize this was a partisan political issue, but gotta stop the plastic madness somewhere.
ps, many mfg are looking for ways to cut plastic packaging, but it still highly effective in reducing damage/ product shrink...whereas a plastic bag provides little value.

kurtster

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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 10:05pm

westslope

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Posted: Nov 20, 2020 - 9:39am



 KarmaKarma wrote:

......

He should be disqualified because he & his family is corrupt,  he's a walking dementia patient, AND his Dems were caught red-handed in the largest case of voting fraud in history.



 

Comrade KarmaKarma.

You support an obese President with the most gorgeous man breasts and the sexiest, hottest love handles/lard ass in America. 

Do you own shares in opioid companies?  Do you own shares in companies that make medicine for those suffering dementia?    Do you own shares in diabetes companies?  Do you own shares in companies selling pop-a-pill cures for Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder?  

Why do you appear to have a vested interested in reducing American immunity to diseases and making Americans stupid?
KarmaKarma

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Posted: Nov 20, 2020 - 8:42am



 westslope wrote:
Biden apparently exercises 5 days a week.  

Should Biden be disqualified from becoming the president because he exercises so much?  It is logical, no?  


 

He should be disqualified because he & his family is corrupt,  he's a walking dementia patient, AND his Dems were caught red-handed in the largest case of voting fraud in history.

YESTERDAY: 

westslope

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Posted: Nov 20, 2020 - 8:06am

Biden apparently exercises 5 days a week.  

Should Biden be disqualified from becoming the president because he exercises so much?  It is logical, no?  


R_P

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Posted: Nov 19, 2020 - 9:07pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
A Democrat Party official in California is calling for national re-education camps for families who voted for Trump.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En...
 
As always, imagine if a republican had said this about Obama / Hillary voters in 2016.  
 
"Political correctness!"
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Posted: Nov 19, 2020 - 9:01pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:
A Democrat Party official in California is calling for national re-education camps for families who voted for Trump.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En...
 

As always, imagine if a republican had said this about Obama / Hillary voters in 2016.  
Steely_D

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Posted: Nov 19, 2020 - 8:04pm



 buddy wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
A Democrat Party official in California is calling for national re-education camps for families who voted for Trump.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En...
 

The Rudy Giuliani of the Forum is back!  Conspire away, loser-voter of the soon to be loser ex-prez.  At least attempt to be entertaining this time around. 
 


kurtster

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Posted: Nov 19, 2020 - 7:40pm

 pigtail wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:
A Democrat Party official in California is calling for national re-education camps for families who voted for Trump.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En...
 
We always lead the nation with progressive and ground breaking ideas.  I can't think of a better thing to do for our youth after these past four years!

 
Yeah, how about those Japanese interment camps we had back in the 40's ?  The Bay Area was still reeling from them growing up there as a kid in the 50's and 60's.  So many local residents were rounded up and sent away.  There were still tensions in the air when talking to friends whose parents were part of that.

And I brought up these camps a couple of weeks ago.  Not new news.  Just ask Richard ... 
buddy

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Posted: Nov 19, 2020 - 5:52pm



 Manbird wrote:


 oldviolin wrote:
Hmmm. That's a lot to process...
 

No I didn't! It was like that when I got here!
 

Said a 7-year-old boybird all those years ago!
buddy

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Posted: Nov 19, 2020 - 5:51pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:
A Democrat Party official in California is calling for national re-education camps for families who voted for Trump.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En...
 

The Rudy Giuliani of the Forum is back!  Conspire away, loser-voter of the soon to be loser ex-prez.  At least attempt to be entertaining this time around. 
Manbird

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Posted: Nov 19, 2020 - 5:20pm



 oldviolin wrote:
Hmmm. That's a lot to process...
 

No I didn't! It was like that when I got here!
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