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Ohmsen

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Posted: Oct 19, 2019 - 10:00am

Tulsi Gabbard


"I Stand Against Everything She Represents" - Gabbard Hammers Tired, Sick, Fragile Hillary!


Ms Gabbard:
"Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain."


westslope

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 - 10:17am



 kurtster wrote:

What is it with you and consumption taxes ?
  These kinds of taxes hit the poorest and those on fixed incomes the hardest, period.

One of the biggest keys to economic prosperity is low energy costs.  Our, the USA's, energy gets cleaner and cleaner by the day.  New technology keeps coming online regularly.  We are just a couple of breakthroughs away to major energy source changes.  Don't bankrupt the country and prevent the development of these potential breakthroughs from happening due to a lack of financial resources that result from counterproductive artificially high energy costs. 
 

Kurtster,

Economists and tax experts have been calling for the weight of taxation to be shifted to consumption away from income and production for a rather long time.    

Look around.  US excise taxes on deadly, polluting fossil fuels are the lowest among the rich OECD countries.    The USA is the ONLY rich western country that does not use value-added sales taxes (VAT).

Now look at the socio-economic performance of the 'other' rich OECD countries.   Why is America's performance so poor by comparison?  Why do you have a galloping obesity epidemic?      


Why are so many economies with much higher taxes on deadly, polluting fuels performing so well if 'cheap energy' is the key to better outcomes?


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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 - 6:43pm

 westslope wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
If the DNC were smart and they are not, they would throw their weight behind this Pete fellow.  I think he is the one with the goods to win over moderates and independents.  Biden would be if here not such a damaged oaf.
 
Despite Pete's sexual preference?  Just curious.  His 'centrist' position has strong potential appeal for swing voters.

That said, I believe the USA should focus on single payer health care and should increase consumption taxes to finance it.  Starting with excise taxes on dirty fuel which at the federal level have been steadily declining in real terms over the last almost 3 decades.

 
What is it with you and consumption taxes ?  These kinds of taxes hit the poorest and those on fixed incomes the hardest, period.

One of the biggest keys to economic prosperity is low energy costs.  Our, the USA's, energy gets cleaner and cleaner by the day.  New technology keeps coming online regularly.  We are just a couple of breakthroughs away to major energy source changes.  Don't bankrupt the country and prevent the development of these potential breakthroughs from happening due to a lack of financial resources that result from counterproductive artificially high energy costs. 
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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 - 10:55am

What I Learned From the Debate: Democrats Still Can’t Level With Voters About the American Empire
sirdroseph

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 - 7:56am

 westslope wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
If the DNC were smart and they are not, they would throw their weight behind this Pete fellow.  I think he is the one with the goods to win over moderates and independents.  Biden would be if here not such a damaged oaf.
 
Despite Pete's sexual preference?  Just curious.  His 'centrist' position has strong potential appeal for swing voters.

That said, I believe the USA should focus on single payer health care and should increase consumption taxes to finance it.  Starting with excise taxes on dirty fuel which at the federal level have been steadily declining in real terms over the last almost 3 decades.

 
Moderates and independents are imo usually the most sophisticated voters and have absolutely no consideration for or opinion of sexuality, color of skin and so forth.  That is usually the fodder of staunch liberals and conservatives who are obsessed with identity politics.  If you only watched the media and did not actually spend any time amongst real Americans this is a fact that would surprise most outsiders. 

 

As for the second bolded, that is a losing hand in the general right there.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 - 7:52am



 sirdroseph wrote:
If the DNC were smart and they are not, they would throw their weight behind this Pete fellow.  I think he is the one with the goods to win over moderates and independents.  Biden would be if here not such a damaged oaf.
 
Despite Pete's sexual preference?  Just curious.  His 'centrist' position has strong potential appeal for swing voters.

That said, I believe the USA should focus on single payer health care and should increase consumption taxes to finance it.  Starting with excise taxes on dirty fuel which at the federal level have been steadily declining in real terms over the last almost 3 decades.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 - 7:50am



 sirdroseph wrote:
If the DNC were smart and they are not, they would throw their weight behind this Pete fellow.  I think he is the one with the goods to win over moderates and independents.  Biden would be if here not such a damaged oaf.
 

I'm not paying too close attention yet, but for the love of all that is good...please, not one of the three grandparents.
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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 - 7:47am

If the DNC were smart and they are not, they would throw their weight behind this Pete fellow.  I think he is the one with the goods to win over moderates and independents.  Biden would be if he were not such a damaged oaf.
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Posted: Sep 27, 2019 - 11:24am



 westslope wrote:


 Isabeau wrote:


 westslope wrote:
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has withdrawn from the Democratic presidential candidate race.

I guess destroying Senator Al Franken's career did not work out so well for her. 
 
 
Indeed, most women know the difference between goofy grab-ass and real harassment.  


 
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think most women know the difference between a goofy pantomime of a grab-ass and an actual, unsolicited physical grab-ass.

 

Indeed. Thnx for clarification.
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Posted: Sep 27, 2019 - 11:14am

not sure why this guy didn't get more traction

his name came up in a podcast i listen to

i think he might have flipped some turf from red to blue

he's got some appeal and has some experience


westslope

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Posted: Sep 17, 2019 - 11:02am



 Isabeau wrote:


 westslope wrote:
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has withdrawn from the Democratic presidential candidate race.

I guess destroying Senator Al Franken's career did not work out so well for her. 
 
 
Indeed, most women know the difference between goofy grab-ass and real harassment.  


 
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think most women know the difference between a goofy pantomime of a grab-ass and an actual, unsolicited physical grab-ass.

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Posted: Sep 16, 2019 - 12:26pm



 sirdroseph wrote:
 Isabeau wrote:


 westslope wrote:
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has withdrawn from the Democratic presidential candidate race.

I guess destroying Senator Al Franken's career did not work out so well for her. 
 
 
Indeed, most women know the difference between goofy grab-ass and real harassment.  
 
You may have to clarify that, I am pretty sure grabbing one's ass unless it is playfully grabbing your partner's is not even remotely ok.
{#Eek}
 
Grab-ass


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Posted: Sep 16, 2019 - 12:12pm

 Isabeau wrote:


 westslope wrote:
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has withdrawn from the Democratic presidential candidate race.

I guess destroying Senator Al Franken's career did not work out so well for her. 
 
 
Indeed, most women know the difference between goofy grab-ass and real harassment.  
 
You may have to clarify that, I am pretty sure grabbing one's ass unless it is playfully grabbing your partner's is not even remotely ok.{#Eek}
Isabeau

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Posted: Sep 16, 2019 - 11:57am



 westslope wrote:
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has withdrawn from the Democratic presidential candidate race.

I guess destroying Senator Al Franken's career did not work out so well for her. 
 
 
Indeed, most women know the difference between goofy grab-ass and real harassment.  


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Posted: Sep 13, 2019 - 11:54am

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westslope

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Posted: Aug 28, 2019 - 3:21pm

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has withdrawn from the Democratic presidential candidate race.

I guess destroying Senator Al Franken's career did not work out so well for her. 
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Posted: Aug 10, 2019 - 7:28am



 R_P wrote:

 

At least you have some American politicians with a bit of sense - nice to see! 
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Posted: Aug 10, 2019 - 7:28am



 R_P wrote:

 

At least you have some American politicians with a bit of sense - nice to see! 
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Posted: Aug 9, 2019 - 5:43pm


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Posted: Aug 7, 2019 - 2:24am

It sure looks like they are trying to get her out of there asap.  She is the most important and dangerous candidate to the party and that is really saying something with the "er interesting" candidates they have fielded this go round.  Go Tulsi!  

Tulsi Gabbard, Democratic Presidential Candidate, Sues Google for $50 Million


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