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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 1:25pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 

protesting doesn't do much

remember the time when some nasa engineers were trying to build rocket ships to go to the moon?

me neither, but manbird does

so anyway they saw some people protesting and were curious

one said maybe we should protest gravity thinking that it might help

there was an uncomfortable moment of silence then the others said that it was a stoopid idea

so they decided not to protest gravity and focused on building rocket ships

and they finally got to the moon

there's a moral to this story

maybe


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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 11:26am

Residents of Chicago Neighborhood Eject Black Lives Matter Protesters



“If you ain’t from Englewood, get the f*** out of here!” resident Darryl Smith shouted at the protesters. Residents engaged in pushing matches with some of the protesters.

“They were…gonna come to Englewood, antagonizing our police, and then when they go back home to the North Side in Indiana, our police are bitter and they’re beating up our little black boys,” Smith told Fox. Charles McKenzie, of a community violence-prevention group called God’s Gorillas, concurred, saying “We refuse to let anyone come to Englewood and tear it up.”

kcar

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Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 11:59pm



 kurtster wrote:

And so what happened to your personal rule of not responding to my posts ?
 

I can't quit you, darling. Your boundless charm, your twinkling eyes and those irresistible glasses that capture the very essence of your mojo.




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Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 11:52pm



 kurtster wrote:

I think it is you who needs to do the research of the things you support and who else supports them and who they in turn support.

Evidently you think BLM is something different than what it really is. 

Remember what they did to Bernie in 2016 ?  They ran him over and cut off his balls.


"I think it is you who needs to do the research of

*  the things you support  and

* who else supports them and

* who they in turn support."



Yes, my Colonel!  Could you sing that in an opera voice, Colonel?




"Evidently you think BLM is something different than what it really is."


Bacon, lettuce...matzohs?





So apparently Black Lives Matter is really The Borg where every member thinks the same thing and all the BLM people are going to loot, pillage and rampage 'cause that's how reparations have to happen.

Could you give them your address?








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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 9:15pm

     kcar wrote:


     kurtster wrote:

    So you are saying that the BLM organizer, Ariel Atkins only speaks for herself ?  She is an outlier ?
     

    Quite possibly. Maybe you could google around and find some polling results on the matter.

    Let me ask you this: does Ariel Atkins sound more or less deranged than Donald "bleach injector" Trump?

    More b@tsh*t crazy...or less?
     
    I think it is you who needs to do the research of the things you support and who else supports them and who they in turn support.

    Evidently you think BLM is something different than what it really is. 

    Remember what they did to Bernie in 2016 ?  They ran him over and cut off his balls.
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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 8:53pm

     kcar wrote:
    Let me ask you this: does Ariel Atkins sound more or less deranged than Donald "bleach injector" Trump?

    More b@tsh*t crazy...or less?
     
    Questions about Trump trigger his implant and render him mute.
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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 8:34pm



     kurtster wrote:

    So you are saying that the BLM organizer, Ariel Atkins only speaks for herself ?  She is an outlier ?
     

    Quite possibly. Maybe you could google around and find some polling results on the matter.

    Let me ask you this: does Ariel Atkins sound more or less deranged than Donald "bleach injector" Trump?




    More b@tsh*t crazy...or less?
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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 8:28pm

     kcar wrote:


     kurtster wrote:
    I took a break from working on music and on my way to the coffee pot I heard Martha MacCallum interviewing Pulitzer winner Charlie LeDuff.  A clip was shown with a Chicago BLM organizer speaking at an organized event where she justified looting by saying "looting is reparations".  She also stated that it did not hurt the businesses "because they have insurance".  I referenced the interview only to cite where I saw the actual footage.

    There we have it.  "Looting is reparations"
     

    Not everyone in a movement or political party is going to be smart/tuned into reality/sane.
     
    So you are saying that the BLM organizer, Ariel Atkins only speaks for herself ?  She is an outlier ?

    Based upon the actions of the local democratically run cities, this is where your party is headed.  This is what defunding the police gets.

    A green light for more looting and violence.

    And so what happened to your personal rule of not responding to my posts ?
    kcar

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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 7:48pm



     kurtster wrote:
    I took a break from working on music and on my way to the coffee pot I heard Martha MacCallum interviewing Pulitzer winner Charlie LeDuff.  A clip was shown with a Chicago BLM organizer speaking at an organized event where she justified looting by saying "looting is reparations".  She also stated that it did not hurt the businesses "because they have insurance".  I referenced the interview only to cite where I saw the actual footage.

    There we have it.  "Looting is reparations"
     

    Not everyone in a movement or political party is going to be smart/tuned into reality/sane.
    kurtster

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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 4:48pm

    I took a break from working on music and on my way to the coffee pot I heard Martha MacCallum interviewing Pulitzer winner Charlie LeDuff.  A clip was shown with a Chicago BLM organizer, Ariel Atkins, speaking at an organized event where she justified looting by saying "looting is reparations".  She also stated that it did not hurt the businesses "because they have insurance".  I referenced the interview only to cite where I saw the actual footage.

    There we have it.  "Looting is reparations"
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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 2:08pm

     ScottFromWyoming wrote:


    Memorandum of Understanding: 1 (black) person killed by obvious police brutality = 1 burned-down police station.
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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 1:59pm


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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 12:59pm

    On Right-Wing Violence in Texas, Media’s Silence Sends Message
    Hank Gilbert, the Democratic challenger to Rep. Louie Gohmert in Texas’ 1st congressional district, held a rally in Tyler, Texas, on July 26 against federal law enforcement agencies’ recent intervention in Portland, Oregon. But armed participants of a “Back the Blue” counter-protest crashed the event, beating and robbing attendees in the park. The attack injured a number of rally attendees, including Gilbert’s campaign manager Ryan Miller, resulting in at least two police reports being filed so far.

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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 10:13am

     KarmaKarma wrote:
    Ah, see... the peaceful protesters sure have been busy, no?

    May a red wave wash over you in November.


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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 7:39am

     davidharper wrote:
    everything you say is true.  and none of it changes how much of an incompetent liar Trump is.

     
     
     
    This is absolutely true, but the name of this thread is looting and vandalism isn't protest.   There are more words written lamenting and protesting Trump's incompetence, ignorance, questionable tactics and communication skills to fill a black hole. If there were a contest to the number of words spoken and written regarding a particular subject in the history of human communication, this subject could very well be in the top ten. You can pick and choose from several different threads in this very forum to further propagate the myriad reasons why you feel this way and add to the mass, but this subject is about looting and vandalism.   You can be specific and say that Trump's response to the protest have further exacerbated the violence and that would be relevant, but dwelling on Trump's obvious shortcomings is ignoring the shortcomings of those who perpetuate violence and destruction on innocent parties. Trump is responsible for his actions as we all are including those who destroy and pillage other people's property and businesses.
    davidharper



    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 7:20am

    if every american citizen was required by law to vote no republican would ever win another election.
    davidharper



    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 7:09am

    everything you say is true.  and none of it changes how much of an incompetent liar Trump is.

     KarmaKarma wrote:
    Ah, see... the peaceful protesters sure have been busy, no?

    Chicago ...
    looting not protesting - from an Audi, even!  Also - thanks, U-Haul!
    vandalism & destruction ... check
    Chicago's mayor Lightfoot ... now having a change of heart about the feds  ... TOO late!
    Chicago's downtown will now face the permanent loss of all those high end stores - and many others.


    Seattle ... rioting, destruction, looting .... oh look!  They just defunded their police force by $100M and today the (FIRST female, black!) chief of police is announcing her resignation/retirement after they cut her pay 100K.   Do you think all of that will satisfy the rioters /antifa / redundant?  I don't.  They'll want more.  And more.  Never satisfied until it all burns down. 

    And Portland?  What can we say about the home to the largest and oldest group of Antifa?  
    Rioting ... check
    Looting ... check
    Arson ... check
    Vandalism & destruction ... check
    Trying to kill or maim cops ... check
    Attacking neighbourhoods ... check

    Are there any PNW residents who still think the protesters are peaceful?



    These are all the wages earned when looters & rioters face no real consequences for their actions.  Near instant release after arrest.  No prosecutions brought.  Weak leadership leads to weak police force.

    In 2020, the liberal voters in these cities have discovered the true leadership in what those they elected.

    Sucks to be you, taxpayers in Portland, Seattle, & Chicago.  Let's not forget Minneapolis & NY !

    May a red wave wash over you in November.
     


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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 6:38am

    Ah, see... the peaceful protesters sure have been busy, no?

    Chicago ...
    looting not protesting - from an Audi, even!  Also - thanks, U-Haul!
    vandalism & destruction ... check
    Chicago's mayor Lightfoot ... now having a change of heart about the feds  ... TOO late!
    Chicago's downtown will now face the permanent loss of all those high end stores - and many others.


    Seattle ... rioting, destruction, looting .... oh look!  They just defunded their police force by $100M and today the (FIRST female, black!) chief of police is announcing her resignation/retirement after they cut her pay 100K.   Do you think all of that will satisfy the rioters /antifa / redundant?  I don't.  They'll want more.  And more.  Never satisfied until it all burns down. 

    And Portland?  What can we say about the home to the largest and oldest group of Antifa?  
    Rioting ... check
    Looting ... check
    Arson ... check
    Vandalism & destruction ... check
    Trying to kill or maim cops ... check
    Attacking neighbourhoods ... check

    Are there any PNW residents who still think the protesters are peaceful?



    These are all the wages earned when looters & rioters face no real consequences for their actions.  Near instant release after arrest.  No prosecutions brought.  Weak leadership leads to weak police force.

    In 2020, the liberal voters in these cities have discovered the true leadership in those they elected.

    Sucks to be you, taxpayers in Portland, Seattle, & Chicago.  Let's not forget Minneapolis & NY !

    May a red wave wash over you in November.
    davidharper



    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 4:00am

    " great civilizations are not conquered from without until they have destroyed themselves from within"  

    W. Durant   

    this quote is shown at the beginning of "Apocalypto".   A pretty good movie IMO.
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    Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 2:39am



     haresfur wrote:


     sirdroseph wrote:
     
    You are ascribing opinions that are not mine to me.

    On the other hand your focus on individual responsibility seems to ignore your apparent recognition of systemic problems. Sure ultimately we only can control our own actions, but our actions, or lack thereof, can influence the actions of others.

     
    Precisely.  That is why personal responsibility for your actions or lack thereof is absolutely paramount and the more we all dwell on this notion, the better influence we become for others to follow the same path.  
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