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miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 17, 2021 - 11:06am



 kurtster wrote:


And a further thought regarding this vaccination passport thing ... what is there in regards to people who have had the virus and survived ? There needs to be a program with equal weight for these people to have proof they have been infected and are no longer a threat to everyone else and do not need to be vaccinated. Otherwise these people will have to be tested every time they board a plane or get medical care at a great personal financial cost as well as a waste of limited resources.

 

in a few years it won't matter...



kurtster

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Posted: Jan 17, 2021 - 10:15am

 miamizsun wrote:

this may apply to anyone who has been in a rct study as well

also if you have been in a study and aren't sure if you had the real vaccine  you can schedule an appointment to take a vaccine publicly and at that point if you call the study sponsor they will break the blind and let you know one way or the other

regards
 
Interesting. 

The wife had a procedure last week and while talking with her doc, he told her that he was recently tested and found out that he had been infected.  He said that he had a time recently where he felt lousy for a couple of days and then it passed.  Does not know how he got infected.  No need for him to get vaccinated now.  Evidently he did not infect anyone while he had it or there would be some known issues with the people he had come into contact with.  This guy is not a chump.  Nor is the hospital.  Nationally known specialist.  We have all known each other for about 15 years and have a relationship were we can all be candid and honest with each other and discuss these very sensitive matters with mutual trust.

Just goes to show that nothing is fool proof and even in the most comprehensive preventative circumstances, stuff still happens.  

And a further thought regarding this vaccination passport thing ... what is there in regards to people who have had the virus and survived ?  There needs to be a program with equal weight for these people to have proof they have been infected and are no longer a threat to everyone else and do not need to be vaccinated.  Otherwise these people will have to be tested every time they board a plane or get medical care at a great personal financial cost as well as a waste of limited resources.
miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 17, 2021 - 9:09am


this may apply to anyone who has been in a rct study as well

also if you have been in a study and aren't sure if you had the real vaccine  you can schedule an appointment to take a vaccine publicly and at that point if you call the study sponsor they will break the blind and let you know one way or the other

regards
kurtster

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Posted: Jan 17, 2021 - 8:55am

 Lazy8 wrote:
Ohmsen wrote:
Let me spell it our for all you smart commenters:

A coalition of tech and health organizations including Oracle, Microsoft, and the Mayo Clinic, is reportedly working to develop a digital COVID-19 vaccination passport that would allow businesses, airlines, and governments to check if individuals have received the vaccine.

Whaddaya think, if anything - is behind these first mentioned three names?!

The first two are for-profit software* companies, the third is a nonprofit healthcare provider. What do I see behind it? Simple: vaccines are the single most effective tool we have to fight disease. Unvaccinated people are going to be vulnerable to covid until it dies out in the population and need special precautions to reduce the risk of infection. Those precautions are burdensome and costly.

Vaccinated people don't require those precautions. If we know who is vaccinated and who isn't we know who requires precautions and who doesn't. This is an information problem, and these companies have a great deal of expertise in gathering and making use of information.

The covid pandemic has both direct effects (400K deaths and climbing just in the US, dog knows how many hospitalizations, huge numbers of man-hours spent recovering, and long-term health consequences we are still learning about) and indirect effects (lost productivity and revenue due to restrictions to prevent disease transmission). These companies are trying to help solve that problem using the tools they have.

Why, what do you think is behind it?

*Microsoft also sells hardware, but it's less than a third of its revenue.
 
I do not have a problem with this.  Only if it should become a mandatory requirement.

"Your papers please" ... then we have a problem.
Lazy8

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Posted: Jan 17, 2021 - 8:23am

Ohmsen wrote:
Let me spell it our for all you smart commenters:

A coalition of tech and health organizations including Oracle, Microsoft, and the Mayo Clinic, is reportedly working to develop a digital COVID-19 vaccination passport that would allow businesses, airlines, and governments to check if individuals have received the vaccine.

Whaddaya think, if anything - is behind these first mentioned three names?!

The first two are for-profit software* companies, the third is a nonprofit healthcare provider. What do I see behind it? Simple: vaccines are the single most effective tool we have to fight disease. Unvaccinated people are going to be vulnerable to covid until it dies out in the population and need special precautions to reduce the risk of infection. Those precautions are burdensome and costly.

Vaccinated people don't require those precautions. If we know who is vaccinated and who isn't we know who requires precautions and who doesn't. This is an information problem, and these companies have a great deal of expertise in gathering and making use of information.

The covid pandemic has both direct effects (400K deaths and climbing just in the US, dog knows how many hospitalizations, huge numbers of man-hours spent recovering, and long-term health consequences we are still learning about) and indirect effects (lost productivity and revenue due to restrictions to prevent disease transmission). These companies are trying to help solve that problem using the tools they have.

Why, what do you think is behind it?

*Microsoft also sells hardware, but it's less than a third of its revenue.
haresfur

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Posted: Jan 17, 2021 - 6:35am



 Ohmsen wrote:
Let me spell it our for all you smart commenters:

A coalition of tech and health organizations including Oracle, Microsoft, and the Mayo Clinic, is reportedly working to develop a digital COVID-19 vaccination passport that would allow businesses, airlines, and governments to check if individuals have received the vaccine.

Whaddaya think, if anything - is behind these first mentioned three names?!
 

Patriotism 
Ohmsen

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Posted: Jan 17, 2021 - 3:22am

Let me spell it our for all you smart commenters:

A coalition of tech and health organizations including Oracle, Microsoft, and the Mayo Clinic, is reportedly working to develop a digital COVID-19 vaccination passport that would allow businesses, airlines, and governments to check if individuals have received the vaccine.

Whaddaya think, if anything - is behind these first mentioned three names?!
islander

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Posted: Jan 16, 2021 - 3:45pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:


 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

The headline is misleading. Gates' name isn't mentioned anywhere in the article. The comments, though....
 


Breitbart 

 


Ohmsen


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 16, 2021 - 1:13pm



 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

The headline is misleading. Gates' name isn't mentioned anywhere in the article. The comments, though....
 


Breitbart 
BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Jan 16, 2021 - 12:40pm



 Ohmsen wrote:
 

The headline is misleading. Gates' name isn't mentioned anywhere in the article. The comments, though....
Ohmsen

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Posted: Jan 16, 2021 - 12:33pm

Bill Gates developing digital vaccination passport…

Despite that tests aren't worth much (as for false positives and negatives), and vaccinations still not known to give immunity, nor known to inhibit any virus-spread.  Yes, we need to keep flying around the world like ever. Board them planes and off we go... 
Why address the cause, when symptoms are all, we're really after?  Let's keep banging our heads against the wall... 
Lazy8

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Posted: Jan 16, 2021 - 7:57am

rhahl wrote:

Dr Sandhya Ramanathan’s Quick Tip: Improving the seal of a surgical mask

 
Study showing simple modifications can improve mask effectiveness. For example, tucking in the corners of a procedure mask & tying the loops increased filtration from 39% to 60%. Covering the mask with a nylon stocking increased it to 80%.

https://twitter.com/SandhyaRamanat1/status/1349965093107187714


Good stuff.

If you wear a cloth mask you can increase its effectiveness with a filter insert. Here's how:


People are using all kinds of things here—coffee filters, shop rags, what have you—but I found a 5 micron polyester filter cloth available in bulk for cheap. This is what I use.
miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 16, 2021 - 7:00am

 rhahl wrote:

Dr Sandhya Ramanathan’s Quick Tip: Improving the seal of a surgical mask

 
Study showing simple modifications can improve mask effectiveness. For example, tucking in the corners of a procedure mask & tying the loops increased filtration from 39% to 60%. Covering the mask with a nylon stocking increased it to 80%.

https://twitter.com/SandhyaRamanat1/status/1349965093107187714
 
good tip

wearing a mask improperly obviously defeats the purpose
rhahl

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Posted: Jan 16, 2021 - 5:53am

Dr Sandhya Ramanathan’s Quick Tip: Improving the seal of a surgical mask

 
Study showing simple modifications can improve mask effectiveness. For example, tucking in the corners of a procedure mask & tying the loops increased filtration from 39% to 60%. Covering the mask with a nylon stocking increased it to 80%.

https://twitter.com/SandhyaRamanat1/status/1349965093107187714
haresfur

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Posted: Jan 15, 2021 - 3:17pm



 rhahl wrote:
 

It would be really interesting to understand why there is a difference so other states can do better. Good job South!
R_P

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Posted: Jan 15, 2021 - 2:55pm


steeler

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Posted: Jan 15, 2021 - 2:04pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:


 steeler wrote:

State or maybe county.

 

My wife's employer is the local ambulance company - first responders and staff. The company contracts with the city, so it's a pseudo-government employer. They were issued enough doses for all their employees and "at-risk" family members. I am over sixty and have cardiovascular disease, so I guess that qualified me.
 
Yeah, each state — and sometimes delegated down to county or city — has its own guidelines for prioritization phases.  Most are approximately following CDC guidelines, but CDC itself recently changed its guidelines to recommend opening to 65 and above and not just 75 and above in phase 1B. Most states are now following that. Before, 65-74 and those with high-risk conditions were in phase 1C. Phase 1A pretty much everywhere  has been for health care workers and nursing home residents and staffs. As I commented earlier, phases 1B and 1C really will be conflating, making it somewhat of a free-for-all for getting vaccination appointments. 

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 15, 2021 - 1:54pm



 steeler wrote:

State or maybe county.

 

My wife's employer is the local ambulance company - first responders and staff. The company contracts with the city, so it's a pseudo-government employer. They were issued enough doses for all their employees and "at-risk" family members. I am over sixty and have cardiovascular disease, so I guess that qualified me.
steeler

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Posted: Jan 15, 2021 - 1:40pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:


 steeler wrote:


Just curious: does that fall within your jurisdiction’s guidelines? 
 

I don't understand what you mean by jurisdiction...  


 
State or maybe county.

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 15, 2021 - 1:15pm



 steeler wrote:


Just curious: does that fall within your jurisdiction’s guidelines? 
 

I don't understand what you mean by jurisdiction...  

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