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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 11:47am

You can't BS your way out of a pandemic... 
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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 11:43am

White House Chief of Staff admits that Trump and Co. have given up on containing the coronavirus:


Meadows: 'We’re not going to control the pandemic'


White House chief of staff Mark Meadows has just made one of the most revealing comments to emerge from Trump’s inner circle about the president’s historic mishandling of the coronavirus crisis. On a Sunday political talk show, Meadows admitted that the federal government was not focusing on trying to control the pandemic.

“We’re not going to control the pandemic,” he told Jake Tapper on CNN’s State of the Union. “We are going to control the fact that we get a vaccine, therapeutics and other mitigation.”

Tapper pressed Meadows to explain why the administration was not going to control Covid-19, given the massive surge that is pummeling the Midwest and mountain states. He replied: “Because it is a contagious virus.”

Meadows’ statement would be astonishing at any time during the pandemic. It gives an unusually candid insight into the mindset of a White House that from the outset has played down its role in marshalling a federal effort to bring the virus under control.

The remark was all the more astounding given it’s timing. Marc Short, chief of staff to vice president Mike Pence, has just tested positive for coronavirus, as have three other VP staff and an adviser.

...

In a heated exchange with Tapper, Meadows repeatedly sidestepped the administration’s responsibility for this surge in numbers just nine days before the presidential election. He kept on stressing the role of therapeutics and a future vaccine in “mitigating” the number of deaths, while implying the federal government had no responsibility for the rampant spread of the virus.

Tapper asked why the vice-president continued to travel to campaign events without wearing a mask, despite having been exposed via his closest staff. Meadows tried to redirect the blame to China as the source of the virus, but Tapper continued to challenge him.

“Would you agree this is very serious, people need to take precautions?” Tapper asked.

“I agree it is very serious, but we continue to test more and more so the cases will go up,” Meadows replied.

In fact, the number of new confirmed cases is rising significantly faster than the quantity of testing.


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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 10:59am



 skyguy wrote:


 miamizsun wrote:


why?
 

I wondering why too. Why would you not protect (actively mislead) Americans from the China Virus when you knew it was deadly?
 

That does seem so strange, right? Folks dying, no question. It's passed through the air and masks do help (not much else does). A lot of his followers are older or have medical issues, as a stereotype.

And yet he doesn't back down: It came from China; it's not a problem; don't worry; open everything up; our path is the one we stay on.

Is there science to back that up, or is it just that he's willing to allow hundreds of thousands of Americans to die so he doesn't admit he was wrong?
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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 10:55am



 R_P wrote:
What goes around...
'On the brink': US coronavirus cases surge in final days before election
Record infections and rising death toll deal a blow to Donald Trump’s hopes of keeping the White House
The US is surging towards record numbers of new coronavirus infections above 100,000 a day, health experts have warned, just as a presidential campaign with the pandemic as its core issue enters its final week.

In a further blow to Donald Trump’s hopes of keeping the White House, the US death toll from Covid-19 will pass 225,000 by early this week, bringing extra scrutiny to the president’s repeated but evidently false claims that the crisis is “rounding the turn”.

With only 10 days remaining before election day, 3 November, and with more than 56 million Americans having voted by mail or in person, the Republican incumbent is short on time and resources to convince a dwindling number of undecideds he is the best choice to lead the country out of the pandemic. (...)

 

Health experts see the crisis worsening, in contrast to the rosy picture painted by Trump at campaign rallies that the US is “rounding the corner beautifully” and will not see the dark winter Biden foresaw in this week’s final presidential debate.

“We easily will hit six-figure numbers in terms of the number of cases,” Michael Osterholm, the director of the center for infectious disease research and policy at the University of Minnesota, told CNN. “And the deaths are going to go up precipitously in the next three to four weeks, following usually new cases by about two to three weeks.”


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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 10:40am

What goes around...
'On the brink': US coronavirus cases surge in final days before election
Record infections and rising death toll deal a blow to Donald Trump’s hopes of keeping the White House
The US is surging towards record numbers of new coronavirus infections above 100,000 a day, health experts have warned, just as a presidential campaign with the pandemic as its core issue enters its final week.

In a further blow to Donald Trump’s hopes of keeping the White House, the US death toll from Covid-19 will pass 225,000 by early this week, bringing extra scrutiny to the president’s repeated but evidently false claims that the crisis is “rounding the turn”.

With only 10 days remaining before election day, 3 November, and with more than 56 million Americans having voted by mail or in person, the Republican incumbent is short on time and resources to convince a dwindling number of undecideds he is the best choice to lead the country out of the pandemic. (...)

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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 10:08am



 miamizsun wrote:


why?
 

I wondering why too. Why would you not protect (actively mislead) Americans from the China Virus when you knew it was deadly?
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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 9:59am

 Steely_D wrote:
 steeler wrote:
it appears from listening to Trump and his officials and surrogates that the most important point about Covid-19 is that “it came from China.” 
 

So he did a pretty crappy job of protecting us from enemies, foreign and domestic.
 

why?
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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 9:57am



 steeler wrote:
it appears from listening to Trump and his officials and surrogates that the most important point about Covid-19 is that “it came from China.” 
 

So he did a pretty crappy job of protecting us from enemies, foreign and domestic.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 7:46am

it appears from listening to Trump and his officials and surrogates that the most important point about Covid-19 is that “it came from China.” 
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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 8:39pm

Back to reality
In recent weeks, we have seen COVID-19 cases trending upwards in all regions of the state, and hospitalizations have surged by more than 80 percent. This concerning jump puts our entire healthcare system at risk of another capacity crisis. If the trend continues, doctors and nurses, therapists and custodians, food services and support staff, who have barely begun to recover from the terrible stress of the initial COVID-19 surge will suffer additional stress and risk their own infection, illness, and mortality. If Michigan doesn’t change its approach to this disease, we could have crowded hospital emergency departments and approach exceeding the capacity of our hospitals as we did in Southeast Michigan this past spring.

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 7:05pm



 ScottN wrote:
 

Yes. I agree. It is terrible. Nonetheless...
Keep your chin up! It might just pass us by!


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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 7:00pm

 Ohmsen wrote:
It seems a little tedious reiterating things, time and again, while the MSM are definitely not taking notice... but instead keep stirring panic and at the same time subduing alternative news, even the ones from CDC and WHO.  (But here we go. - As for quotes, pls see further below in this thread, posts by me.)

Nobody is sayin' that Covid-19 is just like the Flu here (although some may have read it like that). 

Testing is being ramped up, and subsequently the "case-numbers" are rising dramatically. 

What's being tested as 'positive' is mostly not, what a Covid-19 infection would be, instead it can be any previous flu-infection testing positive for Covid-19, as Coronavirus infections have existed since times long gone, including actual Covid-19 cases, of course, but by no means exclusively. Normal Flu infections of old have been due to some sort of coronavirus long before... and so the PCR tests deliver a positive result, even if people aren't suffering from Covid-19, lest showing symptoms. 

So, the really interesting number is not the number of people getting tested as positive for corona, but the number of people actually getting sick from it. 

Here the fatality numbers come in. People, who have died. 

There are two significantly different categories to be made. The so-called Case Fatality Ratio (CFR), and the Infection Fatality Ratio (IFR). 

What the statistics that we all are being fed by the media keep telling us about are the CFRs. (I.e. the people testing positive, regardless... such a positive test result does neither mean, they have corona, nor they are sick in any way, but only, that they have had some encounter with 'some' coronavirus - not necessarily Covid-19 - in their past.)

So, when you read about Corona risks and danger, the media (all statistics like Johns Hopkins' etc.) are generally talking about the case fatality ratio (CFR). These numbers are ubiquitously reiterated all over the place, everywhere on the media, and politics worldwide are driven by these numbers. 

IFR numbers are roughly one tenth of that fatality!

Meaning, people, who actually suffer from Covid-19 and die from it. Those numbers range between 0.5 and 1.5 % worldwide, differing from where they live.
 
There are approximately 42,000 people with covid-19 in the hospital currently in the USA.  Around 900 will die today.  CFR and IFR metrics matter, certainly, but the sheer numbers are depressing and soon to worsen.
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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 6:59pm



 R_P wrote:
 

I talked about the increased insecurity of antibody tests further down below (as opposed to PCR testing), so your post (again) is a misnomer. 
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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 6:52pm

FactCheck: Can a common cold cause a positive Covid-19 test? 2

Flu infections are not caused by a coronavirus, but by an influenzavirus.
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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 6:25pm

It seems a little tedious reiterating things, time and again, while the MSM are definitely not taking notice... but instead keep stirring panic and at the same time subduing alternative news, even the ones from CDC and WHO.  (But here we go. - As for quotes, pls see further below in this thread, posts by me.)

Nobody is sayin' that Covid-19 is just like the Flu here (although some may have read it like that). 

Testing is being ramped up, and subsequently the "case-numbers" are rising dramatically. 

What's being tested as 'positive' is mostly not, what a Covid-19 infection would be, instead it can be any previous flu-infection testing positive for Covid-19, as Coronavirus infections have existed since times long gone, including actual Covid-19 cases, of course, but by no means exclusively. Normal Flu infections of old have been due to some sort of coronavirus long before... and so the PCR tests deliver a positive result, even if people aren't suffering from Covid-19, lest showing symptoms. 

So, the really interesting number is not the number of people getting tested as positive for corona, but the number of people actually getting sick from it. 

Here the fatality numbers come in. People, who have died. 

There are two significantly different categories to be made. The so-called Case Fatality Ratio (CFR), and the Infection Fatality Ratio (IFR). 

What the statistics that we all are being fed by the media keep telling us about are the CFRs. (I.e. the people testing positive, regardless... such a positive test result does neither mean, they have corona, nor they are sick in any way, but only, that they have had some encounter with 'some' coronavirus - not necessarily Covid-19 - in their past.)

So, when you read about Corona risks and danger, the media (all statistics like Johns Hopkins' etc.) are generally talking about the case fatality ratio (CFR). These numbers are ubiquitously reiterated all over the place, everywhere on the media, and politics worldwide are driven by these numbers. 

IFR numbers are roughly one tenth of that fatality!

Meaning, people, who actually suffer from Covid-19 and die from it. Those numbers range between 0.5 and 1.5 % worldwide, differing from where they live.
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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 6:05pm



 BlueHeronDruid wrote:


 kcar wrote:

 

Why don't you go off and read about the non-fatal effects of Covid-19? They are not trivial or short-lived. 

Also, check out this page, especially the chart for new cases reported by day in the United States. We are nearing a third peak since the pandemic started and may reach a record number of new daily cases.  

Kids without masks become vectors for other kids, parents and grandparents, the elderly and infirm, etc. Our hospitals and healthcare professionals have to deal with many of those stricken with a non-lethal case of Covid-19. We are running the risk of pushing our healthcare system into collapse. 


"Thinking of a morbidity rate between 0.5 and 1.5 per cent (just a little above flu morbidity rates) - does it justify all these lockdowns and insurgencies on our privatcy?"

I can't speak for Germany where IIRC you are. Lockdowns in the US were mostly insufficient in duration and in many cases scope of restrictions.  AGain, check out the NYT link. Note that many of the northeastern states don't have many Covid-19 cases. That's because they got hit very hard and imposed strict controls. 

You might want to go back and read these two articles. "The Hammer and the Dance" was discussed at length in this forum. 
 

I should think the pressure on front-line medicine is worth consideration. When the ER is swamped with COVID, your chances of surviving your heart attack, stroke, or accident decrease. And that is also a public health emergency.
 

Good point. The New York Times and I believe Washington Post have also reported significant declines in hospitalizations for non-Covid medical conditions because people were so afraid of catching the virus that they postponed necessary stays at a hospital. In some cases hospitalized patients checked out prematurely because of the same fear. 

See also 

https://www.latimes.com/califo...
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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 5:54pm



 kcar wrote:

 

Why don't you go off and read about the non-fatal effects of Covid-19? They are not trivial or short-lived. 

Also, check out this page, especially the chart for new cases reported by day in the United States. We are nearing a third peak since the pandemic started and may reach a record number of new daily cases.  

Kids without masks become vectors for other kids, parents and grandparents, the elderly and infirm, etc. Our hospitals and healthcare professionals have to deal with many of those stricken with a non-lethal case of Covid-19. We are running the risk of pushing our healthcare system into collapse. 


"Thinking of a morbidity rate between 0.5 and 1.5 per cent (just a little above flu morbidity rates) - does it justify all these lockdowns and insurgencies on our privatcy?"

I can't speak for Germany where IIRC you are. Lockdowns in the US were mostly insufficient in duration and in many cases scope of restrictions.  AGain, check out the NYT link. Note that many of the northeastern states don't have many Covid-19 cases. That's because they got hit very hard and imposed strict controls. 

You might want to go back and read these two articles. "The Hammer and the Dance" was discussed at length in this forum. 
 

I should think the pressure on front-line medicine is worth consideration. When the ER is swamped with COVID, your chances of surviving your heart attack, stroke, or accident decrease. And that is also a public health emergency.
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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 5:47pm



 Ohmsen wrote:


 ScottN wrote:

The disease has so many different courses and outcomes.  The virus — the resulting disease — seems to less severe this fall, but I haven't really studied that and may be wrong.  Certainly improved treatment has improved outcomes.  The infection numbers the past month are very dismaying. I'm not sure what the MSM is doing because I don't watch or listen much to their covid-19 coverage.  The number of infections seems real and serious to me. Worldwide.
 

I'm not saying the virus is a hoax- it is serious, and the effects may be terrible. 
Yet, the so called 'pandemic' seems a hoax to me, and that which governments are subsequently making of it.
Thinking of a morbidity rate between 0.5 and 1.5 per cent (just a little above flu morbidity rates) - does it justify all these lockdowns and insurgencies on our privatcy? 
Kids can't go to school / or not without wearing masks all the time? 
 

Why don't you go off and read about the non-fatal effects of Covid-19? They are not trivial or short-lived. 

Also, check out this page, especially the chart for new cases reported by day in the United States. We are nearing a third peak since the pandemic started and may reach a record number of new daily cases.  

Kids without masks become vectors for other kids, parents and grandparents, the elderly and infirm, etc. Our hospitals and healthcare professionals have to deal with many of those stricken with a non-lethal case of Covid-19. We are running the risk of pushing our healthcare system into collapse. 


"Thinking of a morbidity rate between 0.5 and 1.5 per cent (just a little above flu morbidity rates) - does it justify all these lockdowns and insurgencies on our privatcy?"

I can't speak for Germany where IIRC you are. Lockdowns in the US were mostly insufficient in duration and in many cases scope of restrictions.  AGain, check out the NYT link. Note that many of the northeastern states don't have many Covid-19 cases. That's because they got hit very hard and imposed strict controls. 

You might want to go back and read these two articles. "The Hammer and the Dance" was discussed at length in this forum. 
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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 5:46pm

 Ohmsen wrote:


 ScottN wrote:

The disease has so many different courses and outcomes.  The virus — the resulting disease — seems to less severe this fall, but I haven't really studied that and may be wrong.  Certainly improved treatment has improved outcomes.  The infection numbers the past month are very dismaying. I'm not sure what the MSM is doing because I don't watch or listen much to their covid-19 coverage.  The number of infections seems real and serious to me. Worldwide.
 

I'm not saying the virus is a hoax- it is serious, and the effects may be terrible. 
Yet, the so called 'pandemic' seems a hoax to me, and that which governments are subsequently making of it.
Thinking of a morbidity rate between 0.5 and 1.5 per cent - does it justify all these lockdowns and insurgencies on our privatcy? 
Kids can't go to school / or not without wearing masks all the time? 
 
The "lockdowns" vary greatly geographically.  Seems the primary goal is to reduce vectors...opportunities for infection. Since the disease is spread primarily through the air and by interpersonal contact, effective restrictions must reduce contact and exposure. Some restrictions seem necessary.  I miss movies, music, and bars!  Kids are mostly fine but their elders are not after the kids bring it home from school.  And staff infections are a serious problem.  I don't see"recovery" until there is an effective and widely available vaccine (quite a while, probably), or a mutation in the virus to a less serious illness, (more likely in some research I have read).
 
What would the consequences be of doing even less?  Some say not much, others are more concerned.  I'm concerned.  I believe that the amount of virus circulating must be reduced, and the easiest way to get significant reduction is through mask wearing.  It seems to work. And some time is needed The infected become noninfectious, or much less so, after about 14 days. Not that long.  We can do that.
 
The election matters.  A regime change would mean science begins to prevail over politics and that would be very beneficial, imo.
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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 - 5:28pm



 ScottN wrote:

The disease has so many different courses and outcomes.  The virus — the resulting disease — seems to less severe this fall, but I haven't really studied that and may be wrong.  Certainly improved treatment has improved outcomes.  The infection numbers the past month are very dismaying. I'm not sure what the MSM is doing because I don't watch or listen much to their covid-19 coverage.  The number of infections seems real and serious to me. Worldwide.
 

I'm not saying the virus is a hoax- it is serious, and the effects may be terrible. 
Yet, the so called 'pandemic' seems a hoax to me, and that which governments are subsequently making of it.
Thinking of a morbidity rate between 0.5 and 1.5 per cent (just a little above flu morbidity rates) - does it justify all these lockdowns and insurgencies on our privatcy? 
Kids can't go to school / or not without wearing masks all the time? 
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