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Posted: Oct 14, 2019 - 3:51pm



 westslope wrote:
I love it!  But I can imagine others finding it all somewhat difficult to access...

What a line up.  From wiki:

Current members

  • Robert Fripp – guitar, keyboards, mellotron, electronics (1969–1974, 1981–1984, 1994–2004, 2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Mel Collins – saxophones, flute, bass flute, mellotron, backing vocals (1970–1972, 2013–present)
  • Tony Levin – bass, Chapman stick, synthesisers, backing vocals (1981–1984, 1994–1998, 2003–2004, 2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Pat Mastelotto – drums, percussion, programming (1994–2004, 2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Gavin Harrison – drums, percussion (2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Jakko Jakszyk – lead vocals, guitar, flute, keyboards (2013–present)
  • Bill Rieflin – keyboards, synthesisers, mellotron (2013–present); drums (2013–2016) (currently not touring)
  • Jeremy Stacey – drums, keyboards (2016–present)

 

Reiflin was one of the original drummer trio, then pulled out (health reasons?) then came back to do keyboards - although I was hoping he'd be 4th drummer - and now isn't there any more. Hope he's OK.


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Posted: Oct 11, 2019 - 8:21am

Thanks kurtster.  I will look for the Steven Wilson remix of The Yes album this Sunday.
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Posted: Oct 10, 2019 - 7:42pm

 westslope wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
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The Steven Wilson 50th remix of Court is due out at the end of the month. Been waiting for this one.

 
Have you formed an opinion on Steven Wilson remixes yet?  

 
Yes.  They are great, so far.  I have both the EU and USA's versions of Jethro Tull's Benefit (the songs are different and I prefer the USA tracks and play order) and Aqualung (only one version) albums and the Yes Box Set of 5 Yes albums.  I got the two Benefits first.  I got the EU first because the pressings are better overall but forgot about the differences.  So I got the USA version next.  And the EU is a tad better but the USA copy is very doable.

https://www.discogs.com/Jethro-Tull-Benefit/release/5147368

https://www.discogs.com/Jethro-Tull-Benefit/release/5037934

Anyway, what Wilson has accomplished imho, are very loving and respectful remixes that sound like they "should".  They are not earth shakingly different, just more refined and more listenable.  He has demonstrated his chops with Porcupine Tree and his solo stuff ( I see that you are a fan looking at your song ratings).  One may not like his music but his engineering skills are outstanding; he seems to have a gift.  I just know what I've read and heard with my own two ears.  It seems that he is a fan of the music he is remixing and is picking out particular albums that he thinks he can really improve and fix certain things in the way they were intended to be, not what is expedient, and make them into what he wants to hear as a fan of the music himself.  I have really liked all of his remixes so far.  I trust him and when looking for a replacement or upgrade copy of an album, I'll go with his efforts over anyone else's, except Bernie Grundman.  Those are the first fingerprints I'm looking for when choosing.  Bruce Botnik and Bob Ludwig are two other names I look for.

The Yes Box is a masterpiece of work.  Chris Bellman did the lacquers at Bernie Grundman Mastering.  A twofer.  Win / win.  

His earlier remix of Court is widely acclaimed, but only available on CD.  I have not knowingly heard it yet.  This 2019 50th of Court is a brand new remix and available on both digital and vinyl.  He gets my benefit of the doubt with this effort and makes it worth the risk of not liking it which I believe is highly unlikely.  I've been a fan of Court from day one and know all of the material very well.  It should not take long to decide.

Tell you what.  I'll put up the Steven Wilson remix of The Yes Album in my quiet vinyl thread Sunday.  I've promised it to more than a couple of people already and have been very tardy in getting around to it.  You can grab it and give it a proper listen and let me know what you think based upon knowing SW, PT and Yes so well.  Let me know if you can hear what he did to it and if it makes sense to you based upon what you already know about SW.

Cheers !

westslope

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Posted: Oct 9, 2019 - 8:59am



 kurtster wrote:
...

The Steven Wilson 50th remix of Court is due out at the end of the month. Been waiting for this one.

 
Have you formed an opinion on Steven Wilson remixes yet?  

kurtster

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Posted: Oct 8, 2019 - 8:16pm

 westslope wrote:
I love it!  But I can imagine others finding it all somewhat difficult to access...

What a line up.  From wiki:

Current members

  • Robert Fripp – guitar, keyboards, mellotron, electronics (1969–1974, 1981–1984, 1994–2004, 2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Mel Collins – saxophones, flute, bass flute, mellotron, backing vocals (1970–1972, 2013–present)
  • Tony Levin – bass, Chapman stick, synthesisers, backing vocals (1981–1984, 1994–1998, 2003–2004, 2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Pat Mastelotto – drums, percussion, programming (1994–2004, 2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Gavin Harrison – drums, percussion (2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Jakko Jakszyk – lead vocals, guitar, flute, keyboards (2013–present)
  • Bill Rieflin – keyboards, synthesisers, mellotron (2013–present); drums (2013–2016) (currently not touring)
  • Jeremy Stacey – drums, keyboards (2016–present)
 
They just went through here on the 25th of September, missed seeing that.  Saw Todd & Co. the 28th though.

The Steven Wilson 50th remix of Court is due out at the end of the month.  Been waiting for this one.
westslope

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Posted: Oct 8, 2019 - 6:16pm

I love it!  But I can imagine others finding it all somewhat difficult to access...

What a line up.  From wiki:

Current members

  • Robert Fripp – guitar, keyboards, mellotron, electronics (1969–1974, 1981–1984, 1994–2004, 2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Mel Collins – saxophones, flute, bass flute, mellotron, backing vocals (1970–1972, 2013–present)
  • Tony Levin – bass, Chapman stick, synthesisers, backing vocals (1981–1984, 1994–1998, 2003–2004, 2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Pat Mastelotto – drums, percussion, programming (1994–2004, 2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Gavin Harrison – drums, percussion (2007–2008, 2013–present)
  • Jakko Jakszyk – lead vocals, guitar, flute, keyboards (2013–present)
  • Bill Rieflin – keyboards, synthesisers, mellotron (2013–present); drums (2013–2016) (currently not touring)
  • Jeremy Stacey – drums, keyboards (2016–present)

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Posted: Oct 8, 2019 - 3:12pm

There are legendary incarnations (Bruford/Fripp/Wetton, and Bruford/Levin/Fripp/Belew at least) but this latest beast certainly deserves that designation.


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Posted: Oct 7, 2019 - 2:17pm



 Proclivities wrote:

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It's odd that they used a 1974 photograph of the band for an article about a 1969 album; I'm pretty sure that Fripp is the only person in that photo who played on â€˜In the Court of the Crimson King’.  Anyhow, it's hard to say how much that album influenced PF, but "Heart of the Sunrise" by Yes (who I never liked anyhow) was clearly inspired by KC's "21st Century Schizoid Man".
 
Not odd.  Probably the only photo that was easily available and either free or cheap.  Media economics.....

PF's Dark Side of the Moon stands out for the long, slow notes.  I do not recall off-hand King Crimson doing anything quite like that.  

Never saw a connection between Heart of the Sunrise and 21st Century Schizoid Man.  Will have to re-listen with that in mind.  

From my perspective, the evolving technology made King Crimson and other similar bands' music possible or at least more likely.   The 1969 KC line-up could have died in a plane crash and all the other bands would have come out with their own version of 'prog rock'.  

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Posted: Oct 7, 2019 - 11:32am


 westslope wrote:
How King Crimson’s masterpiece led a generation to Pink Floyd’s ‘The Dark Side of the Moon’
‘In the Court of the Crimson King’ was released 50 years ago – Pink Floyd, Yes and Genesis could never have sounded like they did without it, says Simon Hardeman
The first KC album was pathbreaking and I am a big fan but this article hypes the importance of that album.    Just a little me thinks.   
 
It's odd that they used a 1974 photograph of the band for an article about a 1969 album; I'm pretty sure that Fripp is the only person in that photo who played on â€˜In the Court of the Crimson King’.  Anyhow, it's hard to say how much that album influenced PF, but "Heart of the Sunrise" by Yes (who I never liked anyhow) was clearly inspired by KC's "21st Century Schizoid Man".
westslope

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Posted: Oct 7, 2019 - 11:12am

How King Crimson’s masterpiece led a generation to Pink Floyd’s ‘The Dark Side of the Moon’
‘In the Court of the Crimson King’ was released 50 years ago – Pink Floyd, Yes and Genesis could never have sounded like they did without it, says Simon Hardeman







The first KC album was pathbreaking and I am a big fan but this article hypes the importance of that album.    Just a little me thinks.