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kurtster

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 - 11:27am

 rgio wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
A RECORD STORAGE SOLUTION

 The horizontal shelves are solid and supported by the upright dividers taking most of the weight off of the dowels that hold them in place on the sides. 
 
Kurt... just in word in defense of the Ikea shelves...  The comment above is absolutely the same for Ikea.   The problem is people putting them together wrong or using then "on their side".   If you google Ikea Kallax failure and look closely, the long boards are verticle.  In the picture below, you can see that the unit failed because the long boards inside the square are vertical.  The confusion here is that the long board on the top is correct, but the "insides" of the box need to be turned 90 degrees.  Your unit is the same from the pictures...and should be fine based on your decription.

The added weight on the top is just a bonus to ensure failure.

What's interesting on the Walmart site...they don't have squares bigger than 2X2....so you can't really put them together wrong.

 
Here's the unit I bought, a 3 X 4 with the long boards running horizontal.  I would have got the 4 X 4 but it would have been too high for the light switch.  On the left are what is left of my original Peaches crates.  They are stacked with a 1 X 12 birch plank running in between each level and screwed into the crates below each plank.  Those are stacked 4 high and are not going anywhere ever again.  The 3 X 4 unit is rock solid, does not wobble in any direction and is not in any danger of falling away from the wall either.  I would not be worried about a 4 X 4 falling away from the wall as well, they are very stable.  The VPI box in the foreground on the left is my MW-1 Cyclone record cleaning machine.  Probably the single most important piece of gear I own other than my TT.  It's going on 3 years old now.



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rgio

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 - 8:57am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 rgio wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
A RECORD STORAGE SOLUTION

 The horizontal shelves are solid and supported by the upright dividers taking most of the weight off of the dowels that hold them in place on the sides. 
 
Kurt... just in word in defense of the Ikea shelves...  The comment above is absolutely the same for Ikea.   The problem is people putting them together wrong or using then "on their side".   If you google Ikea Kallax failure and look closely, the long boards are verticle.  In the picture below, you can see that the unit failed because the long boards inside the square are vertical.  The confusion here is that the long board on the top is correct, but the "insides" of the box need to be turned 90 degrees.  Your unit is the same from the pictures...and should be fine based on your decription.

The added weight on the top is just a bonus to ensure failure.

What's interesting on the Walmart site...they don't have squares bigger than 2X2....so you can't really put them together wrong.


 

Vertical/Horizontal, pish/posh: These things need some triangulation. Even crappy pasteboard backs that are held in place with half-inch brads every 6 inches will keep a system like that from racking. Of course a far better option would be to use some little L-braces to tie the shelves to studs in the wall. And yeah the stacking one on top of the other... this isn't the office of an engineering major. I'd be a lot more worried about that whole system coming away from the wall.
 
Agree that triangulation would add strength, but isn't necessary if you simply follow instructions.  The use case for record storage is a tiny minority in the global sales for these units (or any unit...we're talking about vinyl sales).  Their primary appeal is as inexpensive, stylish storage and display.  Making them record-owning-idiot-proof would likely lose more sales than it generates.    If you can't follow instructions and need record storage, go buy metal racks at home depot.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 - 8:25am



 rgio wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
A RECORD STORAGE SOLUTION

 The horizontal shelves are solid and supported by the upright dividers taking most of the weight off of the dowels that hold them in place on the sides. 
 
Kurt... just in word in defense of the Ikea shelves...  The comment above is absolutely the same for Ikea.   The problem is people putting them together wrong or using then "on their side".   If you google Ikea Kallax failure and look closely, the long boards are verticle.  In the picture below, you can see that the unit failed because the long boards inside the square are vertical.  The confusion here is that the long board on the top is correct, but the "insides" of the box need to be turned 90 degrees.  Your unit is the same from the pictures...and should be fine based on your decription.

The added weight on the top is just a bonus to ensure failure.

What's interesting on the Walmart site...they don't have squares bigger than 2X2....so you can't really put them together wrong.


 

Vertical/Horizontal, pish/posh: These things need some triangulation. Even crappy pasteboard backs that are held in place with half-inch brads every 6 inches will keep a system like that from racking. Of course a far better option would be to use some little L-braces to tie the shelves to studs in the wall. And yeah the stacking one on top of the other... this isn't the office of an engineering major. I'd be a lot more worried about that whole system coming away from the wall.
rgio

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 - 6:48am



 kurtster wrote:
A RECORD STORAGE SOLUTION

 The horizontal shelves are solid and supported by the upright dividers taking most of the weight off of the dowels that hold them in place on the sides. 
 
Kurt... just in word in defense of the Ikea shelves...  The comment above is absolutely the same for Ikea.   The problem is people putting them together wrong or using then "on their side".   If you google Ikea Kallax failure and look closely, the long boards are verticle.  In the picture below, you can see that the unit failed because the long boards inside the square are vertical.  The confusion here is that the long board on the top is correct, but the "insides" of the box need to be turned 90 degrees.  Your unit is the same from the pictures...and should be fine based on your decription.

The added weight on the top is just a bonus to ensure failure.

What's interesting on the Walmart site...they don't have squares bigger than 2X2....so you can't really put them together wrong.


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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 - 3:00am



 kurtster wrote:
This is a story much more than just about vinyl records, it is about music on physical media as well as the the future of music itself as part of our daily lives.

There was a fire out in the middle of the desert in SoCal the other day.  It took out a key piece of the physical music food chain and may be irreplaceable.  What is not mentioned in any of these particular articles that are linked in the main story is that the Scientologists own half of the remaining DMM cutting lathes ... there are only 4 known to remain in existence ...

The Vinyl Pause of 2020: FAQ in progress

If you don’t care about vinyl, the music medium, at all — no judgment — you’ll want to skip this post. You’re welcome.
  • So what just happened, and why should I care?
Apollo Master Audiodiscs’ building burned down the morning of Friday, February 7th 2020 circa 8am PST. Here is one of the first reports on the fire. Thankfully, no one involved was physically hurt. Of course, the workers at Apollo no longer have jobs for the foreseeable future.

Apollo provided at least 90% of vinyl mastering studios/plants with the needed lacquers (acetate discs) to cut masters for any new audio vinyl pressing in the entire world. They were also apparently the only manufacturer of the cutting styli needed to create such masters.

...
  • Why do you care for vinyl so much? I mean, formats come and go, right? You know that, right?
Despite talking so much about vinyl in this entire piece, the primary reason I’m writing all of this is that we don’t lose a vital part of the music industry, period â€” notably our core network of independent labels whose innovations have allowed the entire music industry to thrive. The music industry has flirted with disaster on and off through the past century, but I no longer trust we can risk another flirt and ignore it.

While I don’t agree with everything in his article, Craig Havighurst’s “The Devaluation of Music: It’s Worse Than You Think” from 2015 hits on many key points that are still valid today — and highlights why the music industry is in a more fragile spot than ever. It’s become more common to hear from friends, “I just listen to podcasts now. I rarely listen to music anymore.” Music is becoming more ephemeral to more people, and this feels entirely preventable. And yet, here we are.



 

That is why if I hear a song that I like enough to own, I download the mp3 and have multiple backups of these files.  I stream to see which songs that I want, but always have physical copies of songs I purchase.   Kids today don't even think about things like this in our disposable, squirrel  like temporal existence.  And of course they all need to stay the Hell off my lawn.
kurtster

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Posted: Feb 12, 2020 - 9:16pm

This is a story much more than just about vinyl records, it is about music on physical media as well as the the future of music itself as part of our daily lives.

There was a fire out in the middle of the desert in SoCal the other day.  It took out a key piece of the physical music food chain and may be irreplaceable.  What is not mentioned in any of these particular articles that are linked in the main story is that the Scientologists own half of the remaining DMM cutting lathes ... there are only 4 known to remain in existence ...

The Vinyl Pause of 2020: FAQ in progress

If you don’t care about vinyl, the music medium, at all — no judgment — you’ll want to skip this post. You’re welcome.
  • So what just happened, and why should I care?

Apollo Master Audiodiscs’ building burned down the morning of Friday, February 7th 2020 circa 8am PST. Here is one of the first reports on the fire. Thankfully, no one involved was physically hurt. Of course, the workers at Apollo no longer have jobs for the foreseeable future.

Apollo provided at least 90% of vinyl mastering studios/plants with the needed lacquers (acetate discs) to cut masters for any new audio vinyl pressing in the entire world. They were also apparently the only manufacturer of the cutting styli needed to create such masters.

...
  • Why do you care for vinyl so much? I mean, formats come and go, right? You know that, right?

Despite talking so much about vinyl in this entire piece, the primary reason I’m writing all of this is that we don’t lose a vital part of the music industry, period — notably our core network of independent labels whose innovations have allowed the entire music industry to thrive. The music industry has flirted with disaster on and off through the past century, but I no longer trust we can risk another flirt and ignore it.

While I don’t agree with everything in his article, Craig Havighurst’s “The Devaluation of Music: It’s Worse Than You Think” from 2015 hits on many key points that are still valid today — and highlights why the music industry is in a more fragile spot than ever. It’s become more common to hear from friends, “I just listen to podcasts now. I rarely listen to music anymore.” Music is becoming more ephemeral to more people, and this feels entirely preventable. And yet, here we are.



Ohmsen

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Posted: Oct 21, 2019 - 7:32am

Cut your own vinyl records at home with this machine


For a little over $1500, you can own a machine that will cut vinyl records in the comfort of your own home. This machine, the Phonocut Home Vinyl Recorder, is being promoted as a way to make your own analog "mixtapes," for musicians to record on demand, and for "people in love" to woo their beloved. But, primarily, they think pro studios will want it to "produce unlimited amounts of super affordable test cuts of recording sessions." From the look of their already-funded Kickstarter campaign, they're probably right on all accounts.

Fast Company:

The Phonocut’s interface is as simple as possible by design. You plug into the device via an audio cable, connecting it to a music source like your computer or your phone’s headphone jack... Then you hit play, and the 18-pound vinyl lathe uses a diamond-tipped needle to cut 10-inch records in real time to the music. These records are small and are only able to hold about 15 minutes of music per side...

The idea of creating custom vinyl at home might sound too good to be true, but its founder, Flo Kaufmann, is a record specialist with over two decades in the business. He’s partnered with Florian “Doc” Kaps, who has already successfully brought back another analog technology thought lost to the ages—Polaroid film—with his Impossible Project. So if anyone can pull off the Phonocut, it’s probably this team.


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kurtster

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Posted: Oct 21, 2019 - 2:56am

A RECORD STORAGE SOLUTION

In the on going quest of managing a fairly decent sized record collection, storage has always been a problem.  I'm done moving now so crates are no longer needed to move them around, besides, my 8 Peaches crates are on their side stacked 4 high against a wall screwed down with planks under each row.  They ain't moving no more.  But I can probably fill up another 8 crates with what is on the floor in 3 different rooms.  I love my wife ... 

I've been looking for more crates ever since Peaches went out of business and have come up empty for anything realistic and affordable.  There is always a discussion going on about record storage in the vinyl sites.  Ikea's Kalax cubes were rumored to be good, but they were still expensive when you need a dozen, had problems and I believe are now discontinued.  All the other prefab bookcases and what not that could work were flimsy at best when you put that much weight on them.  Records are flipping heavy.  They weigh about 35 lbs. per foot.  How to store vinyl records.   But very little about finding any proper containers.

Last week in order to get the rest of the place organized I saw a 4 cubby cube at Wal Mart with 13" X 13" X 15" cubbies for $50.  Hello !!!!!  Floor model was rock solid and tight.  Bought one, took it home and put it together.  Immediately bought another.  Quality MDF and well designed.  The horizontal shelves are solid and supported by the upright dividers taking most of the weight off of the dowels that hold them in place on the sides.  Rated @ 30 lbs. per cube.  Good finish, kind to album covers.  The side walls are two inches thick and the top and bottom are even thicker.  Square with enough surface area to keep the sides from any chance of wobbling.  I am really stoked about finding these puppies.  I can finally get everything in one room and organize the collection.  I showed this to the wife.  She is stoked, too.  I'll take some before and after pictures when I get it done.

So here they are ...  Better Homes and Gardens Brand

Many different sizes and colors.

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Posted: Oct 14, 2019 - 12:43pm

 PFM wrote:
Kurtster: Nice work! Your efforts are much appreciated
 
i listened to the first yes file  {#Music}
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Posted: Oct 14, 2019 - 12:35pm



 kurtster wrote:
From the King Crimson thread.

kurtster wrote:
westslope wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
...

The Steven Wilson 50th remix of Court is due out at the end of the month. Been waiting for this one.

 
Have you formed an opinion on Steven Wilson remixes yet?  

  
Yes.  They are great, so far.  I have both the EU and USA's versions of Jethro Tull's Benefit (the songs are different and I prefer the USA tracks and play order) and Aqualung (only one version) albums and the Yes Box Set of 5 Yes albums.  I got the two Benefits first.  I got the EU first because the pressings are better overall but forgot about the differences.  So I got the USA version next.  And the EU is a tad better but the USA copy is very doable.

https://www.discogs.com/Jethro-Tull-Benefit/release/5147368

https://www.discogs.com/Jethro-Tull-Benefit/release/5037934

Anyway, what Wilson has accomplished imho, are very loving and respectful remixes that sound like they "should".  They are not earth shakingly different, just more refined and more listenable.  He has demonstrated his chops with Porcupine Tree and his solo stuff ( I see that you are a fan looking at your song ratings).  One may not like his music but his engineering skills are outstanding; he seems to have a gift.  I just know what I've read and heard with my own two ears.  It seems that he is a fan of the music he is remixing and is picking out particular albums that he thinks he can really improve and fix certain things in the way they were intended to be, not what is expedient, and make them into what he wants to hear as a fan of the music himself.  I have really liked all of his remixes so far.  I trust him and when looking for a replacement or upgrade copy of an album, I'll go with his efforts over anyone else's, except Bernie Grundman.  Those are the first fingerprints I'm looking for when choosing.  Bruce Botnik and Bob Ludwig are two other names I look for.

The Yes Box is a masterpiece of work.  Chris Bellman did the lacquers at Bernie Grundman Mastering.  A twofer.  Win / win.  

His earlier remix of Court is widely acclaimed, but only available on CD.  I have not knowingly heard it yet.  This 2019 50th of Court is a brand new remix and available on both digital and vinyl.  He gets my benefit of the doubt with this effort and makes it worth the risk of not liking it which I believe is highly unlikely.  I've been a fan of Court from day one and know all of the material very well.  It should not take long to decide.

Tell you what.  I'll put up the Steven Wilson remix of The Yes Album in my quiet vinyl thread Sunday.  I've promised it to more than a couple of people already and have been very tardy in getting around to it.  You can grab it and give it a proper listen and let me know what you think based upon knowing SW, PT and Yes so well.  Let me know if you can hear what he did to it and if it makes sense to you based upon what you already know about SW.

Cheers !
  
So here is the SWBOX remix of The Yes Album.  And The Smoker You Drink The Player You Get for something else to consider and for those who mentioned their loving of this particular album in another thread.  This after 2 months and 100 plus hours of breaking in my new cartridge playing the same stuff over and over again and getting everything resolved and at peace with this new and final sound.  So I really am curious about what this stuff sounds like to other ears.  I played the Joe Walsh album against the CD and even with the background noise from the vinyl album, it seemed worthwhile overall.  The noise at the beginning of Dreams on side 2 after Meadows is on the CD as well making it deliberate so there is a lot to take in.

Other than all of the above stuff, what ever pops up in here will still be worthy of listening to as this stuff was originally presented on vinyl under the best of circumstances.  Going forward from time to time the old CLICKY may just pop up without any explanations and what is there will be there for a week or so and changed as I catch up with.  If it is something that has already been done before that has been put up in the past, the new one will be noticeably improved so I am not wasting anyone's time.  Also different going forward, some files are too big so rather than lower the quality, I'm busting up some sides into Part 1 and Part 2.  I got used to it since getting some 45 rpm 12" copies of albums that have 4 sides rather than just 2 at 33 1/3 rpm. 

CLICKY

{#Cheers}
 y'all

 Move the mouse over the title and a box with 3 dots will show up on the right.  Click on it.  Get them one at a time.  The big box in the upper right is for a zip file, avoid.
 
Kurtster: Nice work! Your efforts are much appreciated

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Posted: Oct 13, 2019 - 9:43am

From the King Crimson thread.

kurtster wrote:
westslope wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
...

The Steven Wilson 50th remix of Court is due out at the end of the month. Been waiting for this one.

 
Have you formed an opinion on Steven Wilson remixes yet?  

  
Yes.  They are great, so far.  I have both the EU and USA's versions of Jethro Tull's Benefit (the songs are different and I prefer the USA tracks and play order) and Aqualung (only one version) albums and the Yes Box Set of 5 Yes albums.  I got the two Benefits first.  I got the EU first because the pressings are better overall but forgot about the differences.  So I got the USA version next.  And the EU is a tad better but the USA copy is very doable.

https://www.discogs.com/Jethro-Tull-Benefit/release/5147368

https://www.discogs.com/Jethro-Tull-Benefit/release/5037934

Anyway, what Wilson has accomplished imho, are very loving and respectful remixes that sound like they "should".  They are not earth shakingly different, just more refined and more listenable.  He has demonstrated his chops with Porcupine Tree and his solo stuff ( I see that you are a fan looking at your song ratings).  One may not like his music but his engineering skills are outstanding; he seems to have a gift.  I just know what I've read and heard with my own two ears.  It seems that he is a fan of the music he is remixing and is picking out particular albums that he thinks he can really improve and fix certain things in the way they were intended to be, not what is expedient, and make them into what he wants to hear as a fan of the music himself.  I have really liked all of his remixes so far.  I trust him and when looking for a replacement or upgrade copy of an album, I'll go with his efforts over anyone else's, except Bernie Grundman.  Those are the first fingerprints I'm looking for when choosing.  Bruce Botnik and Bob Ludwig are two other names I look for.

The Yes Box is a masterpiece of work.  Chris Bellman did the lacquers at Bernie Grundman Mastering.  A twofer.  Win / win.  

His earlier remix of Court is widely acclaimed, but only available on CD.  I have not knowingly heard it yet.  This 2019 50th of Court is a brand new remix and available on both digital and vinyl.  He gets my benefit of the doubt with this effort and makes it worth the risk of not liking it which I believe is highly unlikely.  I've been a fan of Court from day one and know all of the material very well.  It should not take long to decide.

Tell you what.  I'll put up the Steven Wilson remix of The Yes Album in my quiet vinyl thread Sunday.  I've promised it to more than a couple of people already and have been very tardy in getting around to it.  You can grab it and give it a proper listen and let me know what you think based upon knowing SW, PT and Yes so well.  Let me know if you can hear what he did to it and if it makes sense to you based upon what you already know about SW.

Cheers !
  
So here is the SWBOX remix of The Yes Album.  And The Smoker You Drink The Player You Get for something else to consider and for those who mentioned their loving of this particular album in another thread.  This after 2 months and 100 plus hours of breaking in my new cartridge playing the same stuff over and over again and getting everything resolved and at peace with this new and final sound.  So I really am curious about what this stuff sounds like to other ears.  I played the Joe Walsh album against the CD and even with the background noise from the vinyl album, it seemed worthwhile overall.  The noise at the beginning of Dreams on side 2 after Meadows is on the CD as well making it deliberate so there is a lot to take in.

Other than all of the above stuff, what ever pops up in here will still be worthy of listening to as this stuff was originally presented on vinyl under the best of circumstances.  Going forward from time to time the old CLICKY may just pop up without any explanations and what is there will be there for a week or so and changed as I catch up with.  If it is something that has already been done before that has been put up in the past, the new one will be noticeably improved so I am not wasting anyone's time.  Also different going forward, some files are too big so rather than lower the quality, I'm busting up some sides into Part 1 and Part 2.  I got used to it since getting some 45 rpm 12" copies of albums that have 4 sides rather than just 2 at 33 1/3 rpm. 

CLICKY

{#Cheers} y'all

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Posted: Jun 12, 2019 - 6:19am

Much more than just a sad story ...

The Day the Music Burned

It was the biggest disaster in the history of the music business — and almost nobody knew. This is the story of the 2008 Universal fire.


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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 - 7:28am



 kurtster wrote:
And in the You Can't Make This Stuff Up department ...

on Kickstarter no less ...

A record with two silent meditations


 
and it will only take 12 to 14 weeks to record said silence...hmmm

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Posted: Mar 13, 2019 - 10:18am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 

I could send them a box of Pure Mountain Air™ 
 
Yes, and there's that "Origami Boulder" project I've been mulling over for a while.

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Posted: Mar 13, 2019 - 10:01am



 Proclivities wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
And in the You Can't Make This Stuff Up department ...

on Kickstarter no less ...

A record with two silent meditations


 

Well, it is on translucent vinyl, so there is that.  I'm curious who actually donated - I mean I'm REALLY curious who they are and how to contact them.  There are a few projects I am (or could be) working on.
 

I could send them a box of Pure Mountain Air™ 
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Posted: Mar 13, 2019 - 9:54am



 kurtster wrote:
And in the You Can't Make This Stuff Up department ...

on Kickstarter no less ...

A record with two silent meditations


 

Well, it is on translucent vinyl, so there is that.  I'm curious who actually donated - I mean I'm REALLY curious who they are and how to contact them.  There are a few projects I am (or could be) working on.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2019 - 9:47am

 kurtster wrote:
And in the You Can't Make This Stuff Up department ...

on Kickstarter no less ...



 
That is one of the greatest things I have ever seen!{#Lol}
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Posted: Mar 13, 2019 - 6:00am

And in the You Can't Make This Stuff Up department ...

on Kickstarter no less ...


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Posted: Mar 13, 2019 - 4:56am

I'm truly living in a world I no longer understand.

So I'm making my morning rounds and stumble on this thread ... STEALING RECORDS

I do some reading, it's kinda local, happening down Cinci way.  Then I learn of this FB page, The Vinyl Vigilante that is about record thieves.  OK, so in the optical business we have groups that go from store to store and rip us off and there are a couple of people who share info and pictures of known thieves operating in our area.  So I guess it is natural that record stores would have the same thing going on.

But, not being real familiar with FB and the way chains work there, if I'm reading things properly, the thief who is the subject of these conversations is actually posting and communicating with his victims ...  I mean ... WTF ?
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Posted: Feb 27, 2019 - 7:53pm

 PFM wrote:

Nice work Kurtster! I always look forward to the results of your projects and appreciate the time you spend doing this.

 
Thanks. 

Stay tuned, got a couple more nuggets nearing completion now that I have gotten somewhat caught up on other things.

Just picked up a rare NOS Audio Technica Precept cart and preparing to get the tonearm on my SL1200 rewired.  The stats for this are about the same as my AT15SS so I'm pretty stoked to set it up and start breaking it in.

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