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westslope

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Posted: Jan 10, 2022 - 3:38pm

Asian Immigrant Attacked in Hate Crime Last Year Dies - NYT
Yao Pan Ma was hospitalized in April after he was pushed to the ground and kicked in the head in East Harlem. He died on Dec. 31, the police said.


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Mr. Powell denied “having problems with Asians” in interviews with officers, according to court records. He said that he had been robbed a day before the attack by two men, one Korean and one Japanese, but did not call 911 or offer physical descriptions besides their ethnicities, the documents said.

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Looks like racial profiling to me.


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Posted: Dec 4, 2021 - 11:24am

 rgio wrote:

That's not long enough. 


Another time and another place, these parents would be lynched, and then hung until dead. 

Too bad that cannot happen now as such a lynching would make many re-think their attitude to guns. 


Question:  Will the parents get a slap on the back of the hand because they are white?  


rgio

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Posted: Dec 4, 2021 - 9:20am

 westslope wrote:
If these parents do not receive a minimum sentence of a dozen years of prison, then the system is saying "Go ahead, shoot people dead, it is OK". 

That's not long enough. 

westslope

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Posted: Dec 4, 2021 - 9:09am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Ethan accompanied his father for the gun purchase on Nov. 26 and posted photos of the firearm on social media, saying, “Just got my new beauty today,” McDonald  said.

If these parents do not receive a minimum sentence of a dozen years of prison, then the system is saying "Go ahead, shoot people dead, it is OK".  

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Posted: Dec 4, 2021 - 5:55am

“This isn’t indicative of turning yourself in — hiding in a warehouse,"
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Posted: Dec 3, 2021 - 10:06pm

 R_P wrote:

Parents of the Year Award material.
"Jennifer Crumbley exchanged text messages about the incident with her son on that day, stating, quote, 'LOL, I'm not mad at you. You have to learn not to get caught.' End quote," McDonald said.



Let's see how well she practices what she preaches now that they are fugitives...
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Posted: Dec 3, 2021 - 6:49pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Parents of the Year Award material.
"Jennifer Crumbley exchanged text messages about the incident with her son on that day, stating, quote, 'LOL, I'm not mad at you. You have to learn not to get caught.' End quote," McDonald said.

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Posted: Dec 3, 2021 - 4:44pm

This will look great at trial...
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Posted: Nov 30, 2021 - 3:43pm

CNN suspends Chris Cuomo indefinitely
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Posted: Nov 30, 2021 - 3:40pm

 black321 wrote:


Perhaps, there are a few valid questions in here, specifically, do vaccines increase or decrease the # of mutations. 
All the prior mutations were from before vaccinations, and this one came from a mostly unvaxxed country, so it seems the concept that the ability of the "virus to mutate and create new variants is mostly dependent on the amount of virus replicating. In other words, when there are more people infected with the virus that causes COVID-19, there is more possibility for mutations to occur and new variants to arise."



Unvaccinated people are the new bats
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Posted: Nov 29, 2021 - 8:27am

 black321 wrote:


Perhaps, there are a few valid questions in here, specifically, do vaccines increase or decrease the # of mutations. 


Please don't feed the troll.
black321

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Posted: Nov 29, 2021 - 7:44am

 Jiggz wrote:


Leaky...means it doesn't work properly.
It is not really effective in stopping spreading or preventing infection. Neither is it durable ie long-lasting.
We know this.
If it were doing what it said on the box it would do why the need for third and fourth boosters? Is it even 'taking death off the table' as the later narrative promised?
Ireland comes to mind - 90% fully vaxxed and dealing with a huge spike in infections, and still many deaths. There are other examples. I think Israel reported a similar thing.

In this latest instance, the guys in Hong Kong carrying this new variant are all double jabbed, as is the case in Brussels (who travelled from Egypt in early November).

Initial data from South Africa (a Dr. Penny Moore IIRC) indicates that this new variant has mutated in a way that will blow through any protection offered by the so-called vaccines, and may even get past natural immunity from previous infection due to the fact it has found a way to remain undetected by, for want of a better description, natural T-cell surveillance.
These initial findings will require further research to verify beyond doubt, which might take another few weeks, apparently.
We wait and see...

The vaccinologist who was instrumental in originally developing m-RNA technology has said, on many occasions, that to undertake mass vaccination in the face of a pandemic is guaranteed to cause viral mutation in order to render that vaccination ineffective, and will surely culminate in a superbug that we have zero answer for.
In other words, if you think this has been bad so far, you probably haven't seen anything like the worst yet.
This makes sense to me, it's probably in Virology 101, and though they are different methods for different nasties, it is exactly the same reason why you HAVE TO finish a course of antibiotics if you begin one, even if you feel better.
A first year med student will tell you that.

Viruses are clever and their goal is to infect as many hosts as possible, but not necessarily to kill everyone, because then they would run out of hosts.
Basic evolution.
Remember that the actual death rate from this thing is still a fraction of 1% of all infections.

Many, many infections...small number of deaths. Yeh, they were silenced too.

I do think developing vaccines should have been a part of the overall strategy to deal with this thing, but I think they should have only been administered in a targeted way to those most vulnerable - the usual elderly, co-morbidities, obese, yaddah yaddah yaddah.

Another part of the strategy should have been to identify and administer therapeutics to the infected on an out-patient basis.
Your government had something like 64-million tabs of Hydroxy on hand which would have treated around 4 or 5 million people and prevented many deaths, and at the time this was part of the 5-pronged strategy initially proposed, but there was no co-operation from FDA and NIH and CDC etc, in fact the reverse happened, and the FearPorn machine went all out to silence those advocating for their use, and ultimately those practitioners who tried to prescribe and treat with therapeutics were actively prevented from doing so and threatened with youcanfillintheblank.

One can see how it worked.
The Academic-Pharmaceutical-Medical Complex wouldn't want a 60-year old known drug with known side-effects that costs something like a few dollars for a course, in general use to treat Covid on an out-patient basis, when they could push a treatment protocol and product line that would rake in many, many more billions.
Always follow the money.
Who advertises on the channels you watch?
Pfizer, perhaps?

Another part of the strategy should perhaps have been to get Americans and people in general more healthy.
Perhaps mandate exercise?
Perhaps tax foods that contained above a certain level of sugar, HFCS and fat?
Perhaps do something to reduce the incidence of those co-morbidities.....mandate that everyone with a body-fat composition above a certain level lose 20 pounds, or 50 pounds, or in many instances 150 pounds?

Wouldn't that be proper public health policy?

I will admit that I am a youngster here, only 57, and that just because I walk 2.5 miles a day and do yoga etc etc, doesn't mean everyone can or should.
I admit I come from a different perspective. I am fortunate like that. And very grateful for it.
I get it.
I have a bias.

But I suspect that of the possible strategies: one being pushing dodgy vaccines, squashing cheaper and effective therapeutics (thus keeping the Academic-Pharma-Medical Complex lobbyists happy) plus easily getting those preferring the idea of being free to choose to take a vaccine or not branded as unclean, untermenschen and beneath being a part of society (like a more palatable kind of apartheid or Nazism),
or two
getting people to become healthier (they will object mightily to their rights to intravenous fat, sugar and sloth being trampled upon, as will the lobbyists for the corporations that profit from dis-ease), treating with therapeutics (pissing off the afore-mentioned lobbyists), and using the FearPorn channels to educate and encourage positively (they would cease to have a reason to exist because that is not their business model),
I can see why the former would be easier.

So I will finish with this - in the wealthiest, most industrialised nation on earth, with your medical, pharmaceutical and academic systems all groovy and hunky dory, the USA has, I believe, the highest death rate in the world from this thing, per capita.

So how is all that working for you?

And here come more and more variants....

Your mileage will undoubtedly vary.
Which is cool and as it should be.

Peace to all on this Thanksgiving weekend...




Perhaps, there are a few valid questions in here, specifically, do vaccines increase or decrease the # of mutations. 
All the prior mutations were from before vaccinations, and this one came from a mostly unvaxxed country, so it seems the concept that the ability of the "virus to mutate and create new variants is mostly dependent on the amount of virus replicating. In other words, when there are more people infected with the virus that causes COVID-19, there is more possibility for mutations to occur and new variants to arise."

KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Nov 28, 2021 - 5:35pm

 miamizsun wrote:

bigfoot spotted near oroville california after losing fur! unbelievable!




Nothing to see here. That's just manbird.



Ohmsen

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Posted: Nov 28, 2021 - 11:30am

https://inv.riverside.rocks/wa...

miamizsun

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Posted: Nov 28, 2021 - 10:35am


bigfoot spotted near oroville california after losing fur! unbelievable!




Jiggz



Posted: Nov 28, 2021 - 5:09am

 Steely_D wrote:


Ack. Feeding the troll.



You give me far more credit than is deserved. I do not intend to troll.
Far from it.
I see things differently to most of you and come from a different set of experiences.
Those who might have agreed with me in years gone by have all left this place, felt chased away.
As I have said here previously - I count among this community several friends, and I worry about them.
Be cool.
Jiggz



Posted: Nov 28, 2021 - 5:04am

 kcar wrote:

"a leaky vaccine"

What does that mean?

"Vaccinating like crazy with a leaky vaccine into the teeth of a pandemic couldn't possibly cause a virus to mutate into something more vaccine resistant, could it?"

Do you have any evidence that vaccines have caused Covid to "mutate into something more vaccine resistant?


Perhaps we just should have never tried to develop vaccines and just let millions and millions die. Which would have let Covid mutations proliferate wildly. 


Leaky...means it doesn't work properly.
It is not really effective in stopping spreading or preventing infection. Neither is it durable ie long-lasting.
We know this.
If it were doing what it said on the box it would do why the need for third and fourth boosters? Is it even 'taking death off the table' as the later narrative promised?
Ireland comes to mind - 90% fully vaxxed and dealing with a huge spike in infections, and still many deaths. There are other examples. I think Israel reported a similar thing.

In this latest instance, the guys in Hong Kong carrying this new variant are all double jabbed, as is the case in Brussels (who travelled from Egypt in early November).

Initial data from South Africa (a Dr. Penny Moore IIRC) indicates that this new variant has mutated in a way that will blow through any protection offered by the so-called vaccines, and may even get past natural immunity from previous infection due to the fact it has found a way to remain undetected by, for want of a better description, natural T-cell surveillance.
These initial findings will require further research to verify beyond doubt, which might take another few weeks, apparently.
We wait and see...

The vaccinologist who was instrumental in originally developing m-RNA technology has said, on many occasions, that to undertake mass vaccination in the face of a pandemic is guaranteed to cause viral mutation in order to render that vaccination ineffective, and will surely culminate in a superbug that we have zero answer for.
In other words, if you think this has been bad so far, you probably haven't seen anything like the worst yet.
This makes sense to me, it's probably in Virology 101, and though they are different methods for different nasties, it is exactly the same reason why you HAVE TO finish a course of antibiotics if you begin one, even if you feel better.
A first year med student will tell you that.

Viruses are clever and their goal is to infect as many hosts as possible, but not necessarily to kill everyone, because then they would run out of hosts.
Basic evolution.
Remember that the actual death rate from this thing is still a fraction of 1% of all infections.

Many, many infections...small number of deaths. Yeh, they were silenced too.

I do think developing vaccines should have been a part of the overall strategy to deal with this thing, but I think they should have only been administered in a targeted way to those most vulnerable - the usual elderly, co-morbidities, obese, yaddah yaddah yaddah.

Another part of the strategy should have been to identify and administer therapeutics to the infected on an out-patient basis.
Your government had something like 64-million tabs of Hydroxy on hand which would have treated around 4 or 5 million people and prevented many deaths, and at the time this was part of the 5-pronged strategy initially proposed, but there was no co-operation from FDA and NIH and CDC etc, in fact the reverse happened, and the FearPorn machine went all out to silence those advocating for their use, and ultimately those practitioners who tried to prescribe and treat with therapeutics were actively prevented from doing so and threatened with youcanfillintheblank.

One can see how it worked.
The Academic-Pharmaceutical-Medical Complex wouldn't want a 60-year old known drug with known side-effects that costs something like a few dollars for a course, in general use to treat Covid on an out-patient basis, when they could push a treatment protocol and product line that would rake in many, many more billions.
Always follow the money.
Who advertises on the channels you watch?
Pfizer, perhaps?

Another part of the strategy should perhaps have been to get Americans and people in general more healthy.
Perhaps mandate exercise?
Perhaps tax foods that contained above a certain level of sugar, HFCS and fat?
Perhaps do something to reduce the incidence of those co-morbidities.....mandate that everyone with a body-fat composition above a certain level lose 20 pounds, or 50 pounds, or in many instances 150 pounds?

Wouldn't that be proper public health policy?

I will admit that I am a youngster here, only 57, and that just because I walk 2.5 miles a day and do yoga etc etc, doesn't mean everyone can or should.
I admit I come from a different perspective. I am fortunate like that. And very grateful for it.
I get it.
I have a bias.

But I suspect that of the possible strategies: one being pushing dodgy vaccines, squashing cheaper and effective therapeutics (thus keeping the Academic-Pharma-Medical Complex lobbyists happy) plus easily getting those preferring the idea of being free to choose to take a vaccine or not branded as unclean, untermenschen and beneath being a part of society (like a more palatable kind of apartheid or Nazism),
or two
getting people to become healthier (they will object mightily to their rights to intravenous fat, sugar and sloth being trampled upon, as will the lobbyists for the corporations that profit from dis-ease), treating with therapeutics (pissing off the afore-mentioned lobbyists), and using the FearPorn channels to educate and encourage positively (they would cease to have a reason to exist because that is not their business model),
I can see why the former would be easier.

So I will finish with this - in the wealthiest, most industrialised nation on earth, with your medical, pharmaceutical and academic systems all groovy and hunky dory, the USA has, I believe, the highest death rate in the world from this thing, per capita.

So how is all that working for you?

And here come more and more variants....

Your mileage will undoubtedly vary.
Which is cool and as it should be.

Peace to all on this Thanksgiving weekend...


kcar

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Posted: Nov 27, 2021 - 12:53pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Ack. Feeding the troll.



Steely_D

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Posted: Nov 27, 2021 - 11:45am

 kcar wrote:

What does that mean?



Ack. Feeding the troll.
Ohmsen

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Posted: Nov 27, 2021 - 11:36am

 kcar wrote:

"a leaky vaccine"

What does that mean?

"Vaccinating like crazy with a leaky vaccine into the teeth of a pandemic couldn't possibly cause a virus to mutate into something more vaccine resistant, could it?"

Do you have any evidence that vaccines have caused Covid to "mutate into something more vaccine resistant" ?


Perhaps we just should have never tried to develop vaccines and just let millions and millions die. Which would have let Covid mutations proliferate wildly. 


Omicron *check*

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