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Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 18, 2022 - 1:02pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


I would love to see all the world's militaries converted into "crisis corps" that are trained and equipped to deal with disasters - and no goddam weapons.


"We welcome American troops! They have made our country safe by propping up our populace!" - Montana
haresfur

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Posted: Jun 18, 2022 - 1:02pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Was listening to how the tourist areas will be without income during this, and how much will be needed to repair and I thought - but we're sending $1B to Ukraine. I guess that it's important to do that but...


You could say that about all kinds of things that should be priorities (and I think aid to Ukraine is a high priority). When I was in grad school my thought about whatever war was going on at the time was that if they had used just one fewer cruise missiles that could have covered my whole education.

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jun 18, 2022 - 12:59pm

 Steely_D wrote:

All those young, strong, wo/men in the military - and why can't they be "deployed" to areas like this instead of sitting in bases around the world?




I would love to see all the world's militaries converted into "crisis corps" that are trained and equipped to deal with disasters - and no goddam weapons.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 18, 2022 - 12:45pm

 Steely_D wrote:

All those young, strong, wo/men in the military - and why can't they be "deployed" to areas like this instead of sitting in bases around the world?




Guard units are on the scene in gateway communities; I'm not sure about inside Yellowstone but they sometimes also get regular army fighting fires. But the "season" for road construction up there is only a few months; that main road north out of Mammoth will be a massive project... I think they're talking about abandoning the riverside drive and going back to the old wagon road, though... that will be easier to get done by September.
Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 18, 2022 - 10:53am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Yeah it's interesting how we can compartmentalize things but the defense compartments are so. much. larger.

All those young, strong, wo/men in the military - and why can't they be "deployed" to areas like this instead of sitting in bases around the world?


ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 18, 2022 - 10:49am

 Steely_D wrote:

Was listening to how the tourist areas will be without income during this, and how much will be needed to repair and I thought - but we're sending $1B to Ukraine. I guess that it's important to do that but...



Yeah it's interesting how we can compartmentalize things but the defense compartments are so. much. larger.
Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 18, 2022 - 9:12am

Was listening to how the tourist areas will be without income during this, and how much will be needed to repair and I thought - but we're sending $1B to Ukraine. I guess that it's important to do that but...
KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Jun 17, 2022 - 4:32pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


what a dick
Hey! I know Scott. And he's not a "babies arm holding an apple".
I pretty sure he possesses one though. An apple.



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Posted: Jun 16, 2022 - 6:39pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Yeah he's tweeting once in a while but can't cut the trip short so I figure he's on a cruise ship.

EDIT. HA HA OR A CRUZ SHIP GET IT? LOL LOL


what a dick
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 16, 2022 - 6:27pm

 haresfur wrote:

So apparently the governor of Montana is overseas with his wife and they are refusing to say where he is. I mean taking vacation isn't horrible in itself but it does remind my of our recently departed Prime Minister sneaking off to Hawaii during our bushfire crisis. Not a good look.


Yeah he's tweeting once in a while but can't cut the trip short so I figure he's on a cruise ship.

EDIT. HA HA OR A CRUZ SHIP GET IT? LOL LOL
haresfur

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Posted: Jun 16, 2022 - 5:05pm

 haresfur wrote:

On one hand it is great to see the federal government stepping up and organizing such a needed response, but isn't it the States that are supposed to take the lead outside the park? What are they doing? Have the governors called out the national guard? 

Where are all the state's rights people now? Shouldn't the feds be relegated to throwing rolls of paper towels? #snark

So apparently the governor of Montana is overseas with his wife and they are refusing to say where he is. I mean taking vacation isn't horrible in itself but it does remind my of our recently departed Prime Minister sneaking off to Hawaii during our bushfire crisis. Not a good look.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 16, 2022 - 3:29pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

Somebody has a sense of humor.




KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Jun 16, 2022 - 2:53pm

It's to bad all that water goes the "other" direction.
We could use some of that here on the West Drainage.
KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Jun 16, 2022 - 2:49pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:




The main road north out of the park runs along the Gardner River; the historic old road still exists and is a popular hiking route albeit one where you are most likely to encounter ursos arctos horribilis so go with a slow person.




Somebody has a sense of humor.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 16, 2022 - 8:53am

 sunybuny wrote:

It's the part about the 'back country hikers'. If the point of getting away from it all is to 'get away from it all' how do they reach these people? Helicopters and bullhorns?


There are backcountry rangers on foot or horseback and with radio communications. It's been my experience that you'll see one every other day at least. Everyone files a flight plan, so they know, for example, that if you're going to head toward the Black Canyon (which you should do), they would know to intercept you and tell you to reverse direction. In the southern half of the park, I'm sure they just said to finish out the trip and check in at the ranger station when they get out. 
sunybuny

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Posted: Jun 16, 2022 - 5:47am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

This is from an internal email from the park superintendent to staff (friend of a friend works summers there but her husband is on the year-round maintenance crew) Dated about 9am June 14:






It's the part about the 'back country hikers'. If the point of getting away from it all is to 'get away from it all' how do they reach these people? Helicopters and bullhorns?
haresfur

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Posted: Jun 15, 2022 - 11:36pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

This is from an internal email from the park superintendent to staff (friend of a friend works summers there but her husband is on the year-round maintenance crew) Dated about 9am June 14:






On one hand it is great to see the federal government stepping up and organizing such a needed response, but isn't it the States that are supposed to take the lead outside the park? What are they doing? Have the governors called out the national guard? 

Where are all the state's rights people now? Shouldn't the feds be relegated to throwing rolls of paper towels? #snark
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 15, 2022 - 7:48am

This is from an internal email from the park superintendent to staff (friend of a friend works summers there but her husband is on the year-round maintenance crew) Dated about 9am June 14:
Sharing Cam's email at 9:17 AM today for those who might not have access:
Here are the short and long-term objectives we've set and will be focused on as a park for recovery:
• Ensure safety of employees and visitors
• Implement full visitor closure of the northern loop (completed yesterday)
• Implement full visitor closure of the southern loop (ongoing target completion today)
• Implement full visitor closure of the backcountry (in process)
• Evaluate needs for backcountry evacuations (begin today - assess how many people are in the backcountry, evacuation plan)
• Improve Old Gardiner Road (work should begin on this today or tomorrow once precipitation subsides. Plan will be to use this road for admin travel and to evacuate visitors from Gardiner should Hwy 89 remain impassable)
• Restore power to northern Yellowstone sites and Canyon, Lake, and Norris (Northwestern Energy working on this now and are saying should be restored today)
• Evacuate Gardiner visitors through Old Gardiner Road if necessary (likely Thursday or Friday if possible and if Hwy 89 is not open)
• Support Gardiner residents with resupply of food, water and medicine (we will be working with the Gardiner Market and others to determine needs of the community. We may bring supply trucks to Mammoth and fly supplies to Gardiner using the park's aircraft and potentially National Guard air support; working with county and state)
• Support isolated NPS residents at NE entrance with resupply through aircraft when necessary (employees at NE entrance are sheltering in place, we are in contact with them and will gauge their needs to provide assistance. They are cut off from Cooke City)
• Provide support to Cooke City residents as necessary• Mitigate wastewater impacts of destroyed sewer lines in Gardiner and Mammoth (ongoing)
• Relocate all Mammoth-based concessions employees to properties on the southern loop (happening today and tomorrow)
• Halt and redirect any inbound employees hired to work in Mammoth or Tower who haven't arrived yet
• Support employees who lost housing in Gardiner (multiple actions)
• Prepare for outside teams to travel to Yellowstone and assist with damage assessments when water recedes (mixture of Federal Highways, NPS, and other)
• Prepare strategy for reservation system for southern loop for remainder of the year (we will not allow full visitation into the southern loop when it reopens and are working on options to control the amount of visitors who can enter the park; southern loop will likely not open for another 5 days at minimum)
• Develop long-term reconstruction strategy based on damage assessments; funding strategies TBD with region/WASO/DOI
• Continue substantive communications with gateway communities, congressional and DOI/NPS leadership
• Continue media outreachI'll get back to you more later as we get more organized - Thanks


The main road north out of the park runs along the Gardner River; the historic old road still exists and is a popular hiking route albeit one where you are most likely to encounter ursus arctos horribilis so go with a slow person. Anyway, it's passable for most vehicles; sounds like they're going to take in a grader and make it the main way in and out for at least the rest of the year. The only problem is the terminus in Mammoth Hot Springs is no longer convenient; trucks might have a hard time getting thru the cabins etc. in the area. 




ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 15, 2022 - 7:33am

 Skydog wrote:

8k?!?
I never thought of it before but yeah that park is a big time operation.


That's my recollection, anyway. About 750 or so US Gov't employees but the hotels and restaurants and gift shops etc.
Skydog

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Posted: Jun 15, 2022 - 7:10am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 8000 or so employees in the park —
 
8k?!?
I never thought of it before but yeah that park is a big time operation.
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