The public mourning of 9/11 is even more curious after the last few years where thousands of people died each day and instead of that being a great tragedy as well, there were demands to go back to work and learn to live with that level of death.
At some point the year will likely be more memorable than the date, but "2001" still has other cultural connotations. Anyhow, 1066 was quite a while ago - or to speak of it in the annoying "historical present" (and beginning a sentence with "so") which seems to be the trendy practice these days: So, it's October 16, 1066, and Harold Godwinson is in a rush to get to Hastings, tragically, he forgets to bring his polycarbonate safety goggles...
And on the game show Jeopardy when the contestants. introduce themselves after the first break. Every time! Augghh!
I was just mulling over calling the attack 9/11 as I struggled to remember which year. It is like someone didn't have the foresight to think that this was an event to remember for decades. I think that the Brits have it right with 1066 and all that. At some point the year becomes more important than the exact day. Well, except for click bait retrospectives and laying some wreaths or whatever official ceremony happens.
At some point the year will likely be more memorable than the date, but "2001" still has other cultural connotations. Anyhow, 1066 was quite a while ago - or to speak of it in the annoying "historical present" (and beginning a sentence with "so") which seems to be the trendy practice these days: So, it's October 16, 1066, and Harold Godwinson is in a rush to get to Hastings, tragically, he forgets to bring his polycarbonate safety goggles...
I was just mulling over calling the attack 9/11 as I struggled to remember which year. It is like someone didn't have the foresight to think that this was an event to remember for decades. I think that the Brits have it right with 1066 and all that. At some point the year becomes more important than the exact day. Well, except for click bait retrospectives and laying some wreaths or whatever official ceremony happens.
Well, December 7 set the bar. I wouldn't mind shifting observations of both events to every 10 years... '41 and '01 kind of beg to be memorialized that way. And it would lump them together as events that were used to get into war with both feet. Maybe that's just me that thinks that.
I was just mulling over calling the attack 9/11 as I struggled to remember which year. It is like someone didn't have the foresight to think that this was an event to remember for decades. I think that the Brits have it right with 1066 and all that. At some point the year becomes more important than the exact day. Well, except for click bait retrospectives and laying some wreaths or whatever official ceremony happens.
That anger wasn't therapeutic, it was an intoxicant. Listen to the racist mouth-foamings, the rash and premature calls to violence against random targets...we need that back why?
When you act out of anger you act poorly. You do things you regret. It might feel righteous at the time but it makes you stupid, and there is always more stupidity in the world than we need.
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Good comment. The reasoning that goes along with the fight or flight response is usually not an effective long-term strategy.
I don’t even remember where I originally got this from, but I’ve kept it since shortly after it was broadcast. Now, I’m not a big Howard Stern fan, and I assume most of you aren’t, either. As with Jazz’s post with Jon Stewart’s touching speech, it truly is startling how attitudes have transformed in a mere decade. However, I think a look back at how people felt right after the towers were hit is important. Going back, and hearing the anger…the uncompromising demands for justice and retribution…the unbridled surge of love for country, and against the evil that attacked us that day…it’s therapeutic. It reminds us that, under the right circumstances…barriers vanish, if only for a brief moment. I’d like to think that if another tragedy like this were to occur, that it would summon up the same sensations that are expressed by Stern and other people in this broadcast, and that we’d once again feel that same camaraderie that we experienced not so very long ago.
Content warning: this is Howard Stern. There’s nothing particularly offensive in this broadcast, apart from Robin letting the “f” word slip once. Additionally, Paul Krugman and other sniveling cowardly slime might be offended at the sheer amount of warmongering neoconservative islamophobic nationalistic dialogue that is thrown around in this broadcast. As for everyone else…prepare to hear sentiments and attitudes that seem to have been lost to history. Intense support for Israel, condemnation of Palestine, speculation that it was Iraq, calls to get behind the president and hopes that he levels countries throughout the world, and even demands that we take their oil for ourselves. What a difference a decade makes.
That anger wasn't therapeutic, it was an intoxicant. Listen to the racist mouth-foamings, the rash and premature calls to violence against random targets...we need that back why?
When you act out of anger you act poorly. You do things you regret. It might feel righteous at the time but it makes you stupid, and there is always more stupidity in the world than we need.
I was talking with an Emirati today (you know, a citizen of the United Arab Emirates) as we were walking into our Consulate. He was my guest, and as we walked by our American flag posted at half mast, he remarked "I see you have lowered your flag in honor of those who died as a result of 9/11. A sad day for America. " I responded: "A sad day for many countries, as lots of people from many countries died that day. " He agreed. He wanted to know how I was feeling and asked me if I felt that things would never be the same. I told him: "Yes, things will never be the same. In some ways, things are worse. But in some ways things are better. Americans before 9/11 did not think we needed Allies or friends. We thought we could do everything on our own. Today, we know better and we know that we must understand other people in other countries in order to live with them and pursue common goals. " My Emirati friend agreed.
Perhaps now with this debt and economic crisis we should learn that we have to understand other people with different political views from our own within our own country in order to pull out of this economic downward spiral.
Sometimes the best learned lessons are borne from the most difficult times.
Good point Mugs. I remember thinking during the early days of the internet that it was wrong that the countries are sometimes listed in alphabetical order on websites when you are asked what country you reside in.
My feeling was since we came up with the internet, we should be listed first.
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