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Posted: Oct 5, 2012 - 2:44pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

 {#Clap}  {#Lol}
I think he's been in Denver to long.

Hey Al! Get out of Denver!!!

I just don't get that guy.

 
Its not his fault that green-energy has been a lousy investment. With  the govt subsidies for fossil fuels almost TRIPLE those of green energy it makes it hard to get a bigger part of the market.
In other words the US subsidies are depressing the price of fossil fuels so much that it makes solar and wind less attractive. But as we see with whats happening in California with $6 gas I'm sure that will be changing.

I bet those in California with electric cars are laughing at all the fools still driving gas engines down there. 

 

Green-energy investments are necessary

Commentary: Fossil fuel subsidies must go 

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) Oct. 3, 2012 — America has a nasty addiction to fossil fuels. This addiction harms our health by spewing toxic chemicals into the air, and undercuts income mobility by disproportionately hurting poor communities and those who lack political power.

By exacerbating our trade deficit, American oil imports drag on domestic economic growth. Our dependence on fossil fuels also undermines our national security by sending hundreds of millions of dollars every day to undemocratic, sometimes hostile regimes.

It threatens our very survival, as we march closer and closer to the tipping point past which we irreversibly change the planet’s climate. And remember, there is a finite supply of fossil fuels — technology can expand extraction, but we cannot manufacture more coal, natural gas, or petroleum.

Simply put, we must kick our fossil fuel habit, and this means drastically increasing the amount of energy produced from clean renewable sources. 

Luckily, this is an entirely reachable goal, requiring that we eliminate fossil fuel subsidies, put a price on carbon (either through a carbon tax or cap-and-trade), and increase investments in green technology and infrastructure. This creates a carrot-and-stick effect: eliminating fossil fuel subsidies and the carbon pricing makes fossil fuel energy more expensive, and the investments make the alternative — that is, clean renewable energy — cheaper. And this approach it doesn’t even have to have a budget cost because revenues from the subsidies and carbon pricing can be used to fund investments in renewable energy and more efficient energy infrastructure.

Some defenders of fossil fuels oppose these measures, arguing that we shouldn’t pick winners and losers, and instead we should let the free market decide how energy is produced. Here’s why they’re wrong.

Despite the presence of green investments and subsidies, the playing field is heavily stacked against renewable energy in favor of fossil fuels. Between 2002 and 2008, federal fossil fuel subsidies totaled $72 billion, nearly 2 ½ times more than subsidies for renewable energyRead Environmental Law Institute report on energy subsidies.

President Obama has pushed to eliminate many of these fossil fuel subsidies, only to be rebuffed by the same conservatives in Congress that also argue for “free market” solutions.

Furthermore, the historical dominance of fossil fuels creates an entrenched anti-competitive barrier to market entry for renewable energies.

If research came out finding that having driver’s seats on the right side of cars and driving on the left side of the road was far safer than the current arrangement, would the market naturally react? Of course not. We have an entire infrastructure in place predicated on driving on the right side of the road. More importantly, government itself made this decision.

  http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-10-03/commentary/34227572_1_fossil-fuel-subsidies-renewable-energy-green-energy




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Posted: Oct 5, 2012 - 2:11pm

 buzz wrote:

Next on his agenda, a campaign against thin air at high altitudes.

 
 {#Clap}  {#Lol}
I think he's been in Denver to long.

Hey Al! Get out of Denver!!!

I just don't get that guy.


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Posted: Oct 5, 2012 - 6:27am

 miamizsun wrote:

Al Gore Walks Away From Green Energy

Bill Gunderson

10/04/12 - 06:54 AM EDT
NEW YORK (TheStreet) — When Al Gore talks, people listen. Just ask the folks who hand out Academy Awards and Nobel Peace Prizes.

Al Gore also talks to investors. Since 2007, the former Vice President in Bill Clinton's administration has been preaching the benefits of putting your money where his mouth is: Alternative energy.

But if Al Gore has any message for investors today, it might very well be this: "Stay the hell away from alternative energy!"

Not that he would say so. At least out loud.

Reading through the promotional materials he puts out through his company, Generation Investment, it is hard to tell whether his "Client Update" is selling investments in his Climate Solutions Fund or memberships in the Sierra Club.

"Scientific fundamentals continue to point to a need for urgent action on climate," Gore says. Just like his Oscar-winning movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," it has lots of cool charts and graphics.

Climate policy is still firmly on the political agenda and corporate climate-related activity is increasingly strategic. Innovation is driving costs down and improving the business case for low carbon and high efficiency solutions.

This goes on for 20 pages. But even Gore does not seem to be listening anymore.

Gore's company files a quarterly report with the SEC that tells a different story about the 30 stocks in its portfolio. His company's public investments in wind, solar, biomass and other alternative energy to combat climate change are practically non-existent.

But his portfolio is top-heavy in high-tech, medical instruments, and even more pedestrian investments in companies such as Amazon (AMZN), eBay (EBAY), Colgate Palmolive (CL), Nielsen (NLSN), Strayer University (STRA), and Qualcomm (QCOM).

He is also big in China, with stakes in a big Chinese travel agency, CTrip, and China's largest medical equipment manufacturer, Mindray Medical.

And if you want a piece of the natural gas pipeline game — heavily dependent on the environmentally suspect fracking — you can find that in Gore's portfolio as well with Quanta Services (PWR).

Generation Investment even had a piece of Staples (SPLS) at one point — but that was before anyone realized that was Mitt Romney's love child.

Not an Apple (AAPL) to be found, despite the fact that Gore sits on its board of directors. But Generation Investment at one time did have a piece of General Electric (GE) and Procter & Gamble (PG) and that global warming game-changer, PayChex (PAYX).

This is "urgent action on climate"? If you say so, Mr. Gore.

If Generation Investment is a bit gun-shy on alternative energy, perhaps it is because of its catastrophic brush with First Solar.



 
Next on his agenda, a campaign against thin air at high altitudes.
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Posted: Oct 5, 2012 - 6:24am

Al Gore Walks Away From Green Energy

Bill Gunderson

10/04/12 - 06:54 AM EDT
NEW YORK (TheStreet) — When Al Gore talks, people listen. Just ask the folks who hand out Academy Awards and Nobel Peace Prizes.

Al Gore also talks to investors. Since 2007, the former Vice President in Bill Clinton's administration has been preaching the benefits of putting your money where his mouth is: Alternative energy.

But if Al Gore has any message for investors today, it might very well be this: "Stay the hell away from alternative energy!"

Not that he would say so. At least out loud.

Reading through the promotional materials he puts out through his company, Generation Investment, it is hard to tell whether his "Client Update" is selling investments in his Climate Solutions Fund or memberships in the Sierra Club.

"Scientific fundamentals continue to point to a need for urgent action on climate," Gore says. Just like his Oscar-winning movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," it has lots of cool charts and graphics.

Climate policy is still firmly on the political agenda and corporate climate-related activity is increasingly strategic. Innovation is driving costs down and improving the business case for low carbon and high efficiency solutions.

This goes on for 20 pages. But even Gore does not seem to be listening anymore.

Gore's company files a quarterly report with the SEC that tells a different story about the 30 stocks in its portfolio. His company's public investments in wind, solar, biomass and other alternative energy to combat climate change are practically non-existent.

But his portfolio is top-heavy in high-tech, medical instruments, and even more pedestrian investments in companies such as Amazon (AMZN), eBay (EBAY), Colgate Palmolive (CL), Nielsen (NLSN), Strayer University (STRA), and Qualcomm (QCOM).

He is also big in China, with stakes in a big Chinese travel agency, CTrip, and China's largest medical equipment manufacturer, Mindray Medical.

And if you want a piece of the natural gas pipeline game — heavily dependent on the environmentally suspect fracking — you can find that in Gore's portfolio as well with Quanta Services (PWR).

Generation Investment even had a piece of Staples (SPLS) at one point — but that was before anyone realized that was Mitt Romney's love child.

Not an Apple (AAPL) to be found, despite the fact that Gore sits on its board of directors. But Generation Investment at one time did have a piece of General Electric (GE) and Procter & Gamble (PG) and that global warming game-changer, PayChex (PAYX).

This is "urgent action on climate"? If you say so, Mr. Gore.

If Generation Investment is a bit gun-shy on alternative energy, perhaps it is because of its catastrophic brush with First Solar.


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Posted: Jul 20, 2009 - 1:43pm

 romeotuma wrote:


Well said, Welly... only a dumb nitwit would believe that bogus faux science over a Nobel Prize winner...

 

Well, the fact that they do not disclose their funding sources is enough of a red flag for me. I work for a non-profit and it's kind of an unwritten rule that, as an NGO, if you want to have ANY credibility at all you need to be transparent about any possible bias generated by funding sources.
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Posted: Jul 20, 2009 - 12:47pm

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote: 

The Science and Public Policy Institute was founded by a long-time Republican staffer named Robert Ferguson. According to the SPPI website, Ferguson "has 26 years of Capitol Hill experience, having worked in both the House and Senate. He served in the House Republican Study Committee, the Senate Republican Policy Committee; as Chief of Staff to Congressman Jack Fields (R-TX) from 1981-1997, Chief of Staff to Congressman John E. Peterson (R-PA) from 1997-2002 and Chief of Staff to Congressman Rick Renzi (R-AZ) in 2002."

Until recently, Ferguson worked for an oil-industry funded think tank called Frontiers of Freedom. The Frontiers of Freedom are one of the most active groups in the attack on climate science and have received over $1 million in grants from oil giant ExxonMobil.

Ferguson ran the "Center for Science and Public Policy."

According to ExxonSecrets, "Ferguson set up the Center for Science and Public Policy in early 2003, after receiving a $100,000 grant from ExxonMobil in 2002. Exxon has continued to fund the Center each year since then, to the tune of at least $50,000 a year."

On its website SPPI does not detail the sources of its funding or outline its approach to disclosure.




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Posted: Jul 20, 2009 - 12:34pm

 jagdriver wrote:
And to think there would be no RP had Al not invented the Internet!

 
I don't trust any man that throws like a little girl. {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Jul 20, 2009 - 12:27pm

And to think there would be no RP had Al not invented the Internet!
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Posted: Jul 20, 2009 - 12:24pm

Very interesting...
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/

Especially this...
 http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/fallacies.html

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