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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 7:09am

 islander wrote:


It's as if we have tried nothing, and it didn't work, so there is nothing left to do.


Pretty much. 'Merica!


EDIT: In local news...
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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 5:57am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

It's as if we have tried nothing, and it didn't work, so there is nothing left to do.
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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 5:52am

High Gun Sales And More Time At Home Have Led To More Accidental Shootings By Kids
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Posted: Aug 17, 2021 - 3:27pm

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*darwin snaps his fingers*


shot in the thigh. Missed by that much
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Posted: Aug 17, 2021 - 11:42am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

*darwin snaps his fingers*
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Posted: Aug 17, 2021 - 10:27am

Woman using gun’s laser sight to play with cat shoots friend
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Posted: Aug 14, 2021 - 2:02pm

 kurtster wrote:
.......

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 ...

# Defund The Police ... brought to you by your (our) Democratic party

and people wonder why violent crime is going up ...



Wrong.  Defund the police was not brought to you by the Democratic party but rather by activists of whom some were and are identified with the Democratic party.

Though that campaign and especially the slogan are an in-your-face reminder that many Black Americans are like many other historically oppressed peoples — often their own worst enemy.

If I am not mistaken, overall violent crime has been trending down through most of North America.  One should not mistake salience and heavy media coverage for 'data'.  

As for Barbarian Columbia, the property crime and violence ..... what a contrast with growing up in Ottawa, the federal capital and eastern Canada (Ontario and Quebec).    It is glaringly noticeable in the data.   In BC, Canada's wide open immigration policy is not helping.  Unless you find targeting shootings, etc., to be some how 'entertaining' and 'valuable'. 



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Posted: Aug 14, 2021 - 8:08am

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Spoken like someone who has no idea what people go through in the hood. Yea guns are the problem. smh


Really, wtf are you on about?   You brag about your isolated existence, but you know all about life in the hood?  And your little non-sequitur response is intended to make what point?


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Posted: Aug 14, 2021 - 5:03am

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Utah, Florida, New Orleans, Chicago. All just over the weekend. A bunch more in the previous week. There is no threshold anymore. We would call this a failed state if it happened somewhere else (and we would be right).   I'm sad for where we are, and were we are probably headed. 
 
Spoken like someone who has no idea what people go through in the hood. Yea guns are the problem. smh
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Posted: Aug 13, 2021 - 8:49pm

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jiggz and rgio,

Read through your exchange with great interest.   I tend to agree with most of what rgio said.  Hand guns should be limited to law enforcement, military and other trained professionals.  That category includes private security guards.

My view is not one based in some kind of righteousness but rather expected net benefit analysis.   Example, I was standing right beside you jiggz while you kicked the crap out of the B&E artist.  I might have even offered to hold him for you.   

Then I might have suggested another approach not because I cared about the B&E criminal but because I cared about you the victim and potential future victims.   So I might have suggested a slightly less brutal way to subdue and detain the alleged B&E criminal.  One that still imposed some ....err...  'costs' on the person that broke into your home.

jiggz:  On the one hand, I feel for you.   On the other hand, I have to ask.  If the crime rates were so high, why did you not move?

Once upon a time, my wife and I were in a somewhat similar situation.  Getting the police to fix the problem did not work.  The RCMP spent lots of time observing the then 17-year old gang banger but never enforced the release conditions.   We eventually recognized that the only way to resolve that kind of situation was to move.  

In passing, sometime after we had the young banger evicted and we moved out, he and a couple friends committed a B&E looking for a grow-op.  A 97-year old Chinese women came towards them leaning on a walker.  They thought the walker was a weapon (they had been drinking booze and left fingerprints on broken pieces of bottle), swept it out from under her and proceeded to kick the crap out of her. They broke her hip.  

Rosie Leung had her life ruined because enlightened folks think it is OK for juveniles to commit ugly, violent crimes.  

Previously, the 17-year old gang banger was asked to turn down the music, did not, and then the noise complaint morphed into a search & seizure of a shot gun, a rifle, a large calibre hand gun, shells, proceeds and a couple keys of grow-rip weed (yuck....) .  The judge let him out a day later and he immediately got on the smartphone and started bragging to all his buddies.

Poor guy, he had a mild-case of FASD and total dirt-bags for parents (both were alcohol, tobacco and cocaine addicts, the father did hard time for assault, the mother abandoned her teenage children several times.  The youngest, the gang banger with FASD was well known to the local RCMP.

After an almost 5 year stint in prison minus time served, he was arrested for DUI.  I fully expect to read of him murdering somebody in the near future.  Acute attention deficit disorder prevents him from learning anything useful.  But that does not mean that society should stop protecting innocent civilians from these human garbage/monsters.  

Incidentally, I reckon this experience actually hands me a de facto license to kill here in BC if I was ever in a tight spot again.  The police are simply not reliable.  Whether that is actually true or not, I do not care as I am pre-committed to preservation of life and well-being (mine and/or others) and will deal with police and the justice system at a later date.  I can't show up in court if I am dead. 
 
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 ...

# Defund The Police ... brought to you by your (our) Democratic party

and people wonder why violent crime is going up ...
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Posted: Aug 13, 2021 - 2:49pm

Florida woman fatally shot by toddler while on Zoom work call, police say
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Posted: Jun 6, 2021 - 6:30pm

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My best spin is that they don't think it is ok but think that their hands are tied by a narrow and biased interpretation of the second amendment that says "we can't do anything about it because, freedom."

But really I think it is because they think that doing anything about it will weaken their hold on power.


It's strange. There is a lot of support politically for some action, but there is little support among the legislators (and a good number of their vocal supporters) to give anyone a 'win'. So we continue to do stupid things.   I don't get it. I look around and I feel that these are not my people. I can't understand the beliefs, actions, fears, drive of so many. 

I do wonder about those living in the declining decades of Rome. After the division, when there were two emperors, did the people go 'Well that was great, what now?'. I mean, did they see it coming. Will our society fail in a single event, or will we wake up one day with news of President Trump of the Florida colonies, and find out that Mexico has taken back Texas and vast portions of the Southwest?
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Posted: Jun 6, 2021 - 5:47pm

 islander wrote:

That's part of it. But I think it is even more basic - look at the numbers. How can anyone on any side of the politics look at this and honestly think it's okay?  I'm baffled. 



My best spin is that they don't think it is ok but think that their hands are tied by a narrow and biased interpretation of the second amendment that says "we can't do anything about it because, freedom."

But really I think it is because they think that doing anything about it will weaken their hold on power.
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Posted: Jun 6, 2021 - 5:39pm

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Seems to me there is a basic failure in thinking that laws should be only used to punish crime, not to prevent crime.

That's part of it. But I think it is even more basic - look at the numbers. How can anyone on any side of the politics look at this and honestly think it's okay?  I'm baffled. 

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Posted: Jun 6, 2021 - 5:20pm

 islander wrote:

Utah, Florida, New Orleans, Chicago. All just over the weekend. A bunch more in the previous week. There is no threshold anymore. We would call this a failed state if it happened somewhere else (and we would be right).   I'm sad for where we are, and were we are probably headed. 



Seems to me there is a basic failure in thinking that laws should be only used to punish crime, not to prevent crime.
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Posted: Jun 6, 2021 - 5:12pm

Utah, Florida, New Orleans, Chicago. All just over the weekend. A bunch more in the previous week. There is no threshold anymore. We would call this a failed state if it happened somewhere else (and we would be right).   I'm sad for where we are, and were we are probably headed. 
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Posted: Jun 2, 2021 - 9:56am

Mom charged after shooting her 5-year-old son while trying to target loose dog, HPD says
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Posted: May 30, 2021 - 2:09pm

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Had to ungrey that comment.   Ungrey is not a word; I just made it up.

Hmmm....  Why the worry?  If they have not been vaccinated, will they be allowed into the country?  

And if they are somehow allowed in, what do they fear?  Being hog-tied and forcibly vaccinated?  Unlikely, given the fear of military invasion.  

As far as I know, there's no (incoming) discretionary travel (tourism) anyway.

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Posted: May 30, 2021 - 1:28pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Ayup. The NRA and the gun/ammo manufacturers LOVE the Democratic Party.


Is it possible to cycle in an out of publicly traded munitions companies based on who is or who is not elected?   
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Posted: May 30, 2021 - 1:26pm

 R_P wrote:

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My Fox-addicted Floridian in-laws won't be visiting up North this year, because they fear they might be vaccinated up here.


Had to ungrey that comment.   Ungrey is not a word; I just made it up.

Hmmm....  Why the worry?  If they have not been vaccinated, will they be allowed into the country?  

And if they are somehow allowed in, what do they fear?  Being hog-tied and forcibly vaccinated?  Unlikely, given the fear of military invasion.  
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