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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 1:41pm



 haresfur wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:

 

I had to zoom in on that dude's shirt. And then the kid's socks. Is he wearing his dad's Sunday shoes to do his shop project? Dad's pants have some sort of pattern in them too. Same as the shirt? And have you seen what they want for 1/4" pegboard these days? It's like 70 bucks if you can even find it.
 
Jeeze, a real do-it-yourselfer makes their own. You do own a drill, right?

 

For that matter a hammer and a sharp 3/16 machinists punch in smooth drywall and you're in like Flynn...


Nah. Too fancy. 16 penny nail. That's all you need.

ridiculous
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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 1:40pm



 haresfur wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:

 

I had to zoom in on that dude's shirt. And then the kid's socks. Is he wearing his dad's Sunday shoes to do his shop project? Dad's pants have some sort of pattern in them too. Same as the shirt? And have you seen what they want for 1/4" pegboard these days? It's like 70 bucks if you can even find it.
 
Jeeze, a real do-it-yourselfer makes their own. You do own a drill, right?

 
Holes, holes and more holes!

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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 1:36pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:

 

I had to zoom in on that dude's shirt. And then the kid's socks. Is he wearing his dad's Sunday shoes to do his shop project? Dad's pants have some sort of pattern in them too. Same as the shirt? And have you seen what they want for 1/4" pegboard these days? It's like 70 bucks if you can even find it.
 
Jeeze, a real do-it-yourselfer makes their own. You do own a drill, right?

oldviolin

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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 10:41am



 Proclivities wrote:


 oldviolin wrote:

Of course enough regular crescent wrench attention and all those nuts fit a pair of  locking pli, um, I mean Vise Grips.  

 
Not to mention those adjustable spanners.

 

Right. And monkey wrenches...
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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 10:38am



 oldviolin wrote:

Of course enough regular crescent wrench attention and all those nuts fit a pair of  locking pli, um, I mean Vise Grips.  

 
Not to mention those adjustable spanners.

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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 10:35am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:

Crescent wrench
 

In the bicycle shop my folks owned, and elsewhere in the world I'm sure, we called those "knucklebusters," but when a customer asked what size that nut is because none of his tools fit, we'd say we use a  Universal Metric Wrench* and they'd go "hmmm. sounds expensive."
 
 
*of course we didn't use a crescent wrench on those little alloy 8mm nuts. We used Snap-on. The crescent wrench was for the farmer-repaired specials that would come in with 4-sided nuts, etc.
 

Of course enough regular crescent wrench attention and all those nuts fit a pair of  locking pli, um, I mean Vise Grips.  


anyway, music in my brain. Lol
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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 10:18am



 Proclivities wrote:

Crescent wrench
 

In the bicycle shop my folks owned, and elsewhere in the world I'm sure, we called those "knucklebusters," but when a customer asked what size that nut is because none of his tools fit, we'd say we use a  Universal Metric Wrench* and they'd go "hmmm. sounds expensive."
 
 
*of course we didn't use a crescent wrench on those little alloy 8mm nuts. We used Snap-on. The crescent wrench was for the farmer-repaired specials that would come in with 4-sided nuts, etc.
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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 9:19am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:
Embiggen

 

I had to zoom in on that dude's shirt. And then the kid's socks. Is he wearing his dad's Sunday shoes to do his shop project? Dad's pants have some sort of pattern in them too. Same as the shirt? And have you seen what they want for 1/4" pegboard these days? It's like 70 bucks if you can even find it.
 

What? $70? That is a bit ridiculous...
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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 9:07am



 Proclivities wrote:


 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Yeah, looks like water-pump pliers/ChannelLocks.

I think people want sexier stuff. I was going to cover a wall of my garage with it but might have to scale back a bit.
 
Yeah, ChannelLocks was the term I've used.  Years ago I worked for a construction/remodel company and one of the bosses hated when we used trademark names for tools.  He would often correct people for using terms like Crescent wrench, ChannelLocks, Sawzall, etc.  "It's not a Skil saw, it's a circular saw!"

 
That guy sounds like a tool...


I'm pretty fond of the guy I remodeled with in Denver Boulder. His thing was grammer. Of course I purposely exploited him with my southern style eloquence. Drove him crazy. Lol. His favorite was ending sentences with prepositions so I did it constantly...that's where it's at...
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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 9:00am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Yeah, looks like water-pump pliers/ChannelLocks.

I think people want sexier stuff. I was going to cover a wall of my garage with it but might have to scale back a bit.
 
Yeah, ChannelLocks was the term I've used.  Years ago I worked for a construction/remodel company and one of the bosses hated when we used trademark names for tools.  He would often correct people for using terms like Crescent wrench, ChannelLocks, Sawzall, etc.  "It's not a Skil saw, it's a circular saw!"

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 8:48am



 Proclivities wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I had to zoom in on that dude's shirt. And then the kid's socks. Is he wearing his dad's Sunday shoes to do his shop project? Dad's pants have some sort of pattern in them too. Same as the shirt? And have you seen what they want for 1/4" pegboard these days? It's like 70 bucks if you can even find it.
 
Those shoes do look kinda large for that kid - maybe it's just because they're so shiny.  Dad's shirt is pretty cool.  Looks like he's got adjustable pliers in his back pocket or maybe it's a bevel tool - unless he was doing a plumbing job before finishing up that shelf.  
  Apparently, the Peter Barclay Orchestra recorded a number of "gracious living" background music albums.  I couldn't find a video for this album but here is one for his "Barbecue" album.  Pretty sleepy stuff, if not depressing.
Why should pegboard be expensive? Weird.
 

Yeah, looks like water-pump pliers/ChannelLocks.

I think people want sexier stuff. I was going to cover a wall of my garage with it but might have to scale back a bit.
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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 8:25am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I had to zoom in on that dude's shirt. And then the kid's socks. Is he wearing his dad's Sunday shoes to do his shop project? Dad's pants have some sort of pattern in them too. Same as the shirt? And have you seen what they want for 1/4" pegboard these days? It's like 70 bucks if you can even find it.
 
Those shoes do look kinda large for that kid - maybe it's just because they're so shiny.  Dad's shirt is pretty cool.  Looks like he's got adjustable pliers in his back pocket or maybe it's a bevel tool - unless he was doing a plumbing job before finishing up that shelf.  
  Apparently, the Peter Barclay Orchestra recorded a number of "gracious living" background music albums.  I couldn't find a video for this album but here is one for his "Barbecue" album.  Pretty sleepy stuff, if not depressing.
Why should pegboard be expensive? Weird.  I haven't bought it in years but I've seen it in Home Depot or Lowe's; never checked the price.
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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 8:14am



 Proclivities wrote:
Embiggen

 

I had to zoom in on that dude's shirt. And then the kid's socks. Is he wearing his dad's Sunday shoes to do his shop project? Dad's pants have some sort of pattern in them too. Same as the shirt? And have you seen what they want for 1/4" pegboard these days? It's like 70 bucks if you can even find it.
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Posted: Jan 14, 2019 - 7:35am

Embiggen

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Posted: May 11, 2018 - 5:11pm


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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 10:24am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
This post is fun even if it might be pseudoscience.  It seems doubtful that the reading level of a text would go up significantly because a difficult word is repeated several times. One solid looking conclusion is that Country music is the most sophisticated, because it uses the most polysyllabic words. (And you can actually hear the words.)


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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 5:15am

Lyric Intelligence In Popular Music: A Ten Year Analysis
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Posted: May 22, 2016 - 11:28pm

 R_P wrote:
Our Music Preferences Reflect Our Personality
Take a quiz that shows what your musical preferences say about you.

What kind of music do you like? And why do you like it?

If you’re like most people, your answer to the first question is probably a genre. But how much does such a label really tell us? Jazz, for example, encompasses a myriad of styles, from easy-going swing to aggressive avant-garde. Do you like them all equally?

The second question is even tougher. Sure, some of it has to do with familiarity - we tend to enjoy the music we grew up with - and perhaps a desire to fit in with one’s peers. But beyond that, who can say why an individual gravitates toward Beethoven, Basie, or Beyonce?

Well, a growing body of research argues that your musical likes and dislikes are directly related to your personality. A newly published study presents the strongest evidence yet for this connection - and it does so by disregarding genre distinctions.

“We are the music, and the music is us,” writes a research team led by University of Cambridge psychologist David M. Greenberg. It reports in the journal Social Psychology and Personality Science that personality traits predict musical preferences better than such factors as age, education, and gender.

Greenberg and his colleagues, including McGill University’s Daniel Levitin, describe two studies. The first featured 76 participants “with no formal musical training” who judged 102 musical excerpts representing 26 genres and sub-genres. To avoid longstanding likes or dislikes, the pieces were all virtually unknown: About half were commercial flops, while the others were never even released.

Participants were given 36 evaluative terms (including sad, happy, angry, intelligent, and sophisticated), and judged the extent to which each excerpt fit the description. Analyzing the results, the researchers determined the musical snippets could be effectively categorized on three basic scales: “arousal,” “valence,” and “depth.”

High scores for “arousal” represent music that is intense, forceful, abrasive, and/or thrilling. High scores for “valence” reflect music that is fun, joyful, and enthusiastic; high scores for “depth” indicate music that is sophisticated, thoughtful, and poetic. Genre was irrelevant, although the classical excerpts, not surprisingly, tended to score high on the “depth” scale.

In the second study, 9,454 participants recruited online completed a personality inventory and evaluated 50 musical excerpts, none of which had received a commercial release. After analyzing their responses, the researchers concluded that “personality predicts musical preferences over and above demographic variables.”

For example, “preferences for low arousal (that is, soothing music) were associated with agreeableness and conscientiousness,” Greenberg and his colleagues write. “Preferences for negative valance (a.k.a. sad music) were associated with neuroticism,” while a love of upbeat, lively music “was positively associated with adventurousness, intellect, and liberalism.”

Personality played a particularly strong role in accounting for a preference for complex, sophisticated music. “The themes, symbolism, and lyrics expressed in music with emotional depth” are “closely and explicitly reflective of personality features,” the researchers write.

There’s more, but why not take the test for yourself? It’s accessible at www.musicaluniverse.org.

As the researchers note, these results have practical implications for programmers of streaming services, who might better serve their customers by creating playlists based on the aforementioned categories rather than rigid genre distinctions.

They will also be interesting to the many people researching the use of music in the healing process. Do certain types of music promote health better than others, or does it depend upon a patient’s preference? It’s a question worth exploring.

For now, however, the research suggests a club or concert hall may be a great place for potential mates to meet. If you love the same music, chances are you have similar, and presumably compatible, personalities.

So if you want to really get to know someone, consider quoting a classic tune from the great American songbook: “I like a Gershwin tune. How about you?”



 
Oh my God, I hope rdo doesn't stumble on this thread. His head would explode from all his angst and attempts at denial. 


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Posted: May 22, 2016 - 7:05pm

 R_P wrote:
How Brains See Music as Language
A new Johns Hopkins study looks at the neuroscience of jazz and the power of improvisation.

A member of the Preservation Hall Jazz Band performs at the New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival in New Orleans. (Gerald Herbert/AP)
(which I have coincidentally seen perform in their Preservation Hall in New Orleans some years ago).
Recently on NPR:
 
Very interesting. I have read the theory that language evolved from singing and dancing. The chimps sing and dance to thunder and waterfalls. They beat sticks on the ground and together and "dance" wildly. This probably evolved to males tribal dancing and singing. The ones who were the best attracted the most females leading to better and better vocalization. So thisd would be called sexual selection rather than natural selection. 
Many birds dance and sing to attract mates as well, like especially the lyre bird which can imitate almost any sounds...... including chainsaws in the rainforest. 

 


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Posted: May 22, 2016 - 6:22pm

Our Music Preferences Reflect Our Personality
Take a quiz that shows what your musical preferences say about you.

What kind of music do you like? And why do you like it?

If you’re like most people, your answer to the first question is probably a genre. But how much does such a label really tell us? Jazz, for example, encompasses a myriad of styles, from easy-going swing to aggressive avant-garde. Do you like them all equally?

The second question is even tougher. Sure, some of it has to do with familiarity - we tend to enjoy the music we grew up with - and perhaps a desire to fit in with one’s peers. But beyond that, who can say why an individual gravitates toward Beethoven, Basie, or Beyonce?

Well, a growing body of research argues that your musical likes and dislikes are directly related to your personality. A newly published study presents the strongest evidence yet for this connection - and it does so by disregarding genre distinctions.

“We are the music, and the music is us,” writes a research team led by University of Cambridge psychologist David M. Greenberg. It reports in the journal Social Psychology and Personality Science that personality traits predict musical preferences better than such factors as age, education, and gender.

Greenberg and his colleagues, including McGill University’s Daniel Levitin, describe two studies. The first featured 76 participants “with no formal musical training” who judged 102 musical excerpts representing 26 genres and sub-genres. To avoid longstanding likes or dislikes, the pieces were all virtually unknown: About half were commercial flops, while the others were never even released.

Participants were given 36 evaluative terms (including sad, happy, angry, intelligent, and sophisticated), and judged the extent to which each excerpt fit the description. Analyzing the results, the researchers determined the musical snippets could be effectively categorized on three basic scales: “arousal,” “valence,” and “depth.”

High scores for “arousal” represent music that is intense, forceful, abrasive, and/or thrilling. High scores for “valence” reflect music that is fun, joyful, and enthusiastic; high scores for “depth” indicate music that is sophisticated, thoughtful, and poetic. Genre was irrelevant, although the classical excerpts, not surprisingly, tended to score high on the “depth” scale.

In the second study, 9,454 participants recruited online completed a personality inventory and evaluated 50 musical excerpts, none of which had received a commercial release. After analyzing their responses, the researchers concluded that “personality predicts musical preferences over and above demographic variables.”

For example, “preferences for low arousal (that is, soothing music) were associated with agreeableness and conscientiousness,” Greenberg and his colleagues write. “Preferences for negative valance (a.k.a. sad music) were associated with neuroticism,” while a love of upbeat, lively music “was positively associated with adventurousness, intellect, and liberalism.”

Personality played a particularly strong role in accounting for a preference for complex, sophisticated music. “The themes, symbolism, and lyrics expressed in music with emotional depth” are “closely and explicitly reflective of personality features,” the researchers write.

There’s more, but why not take the test for yourself? It’s accessible at www.musicaluniverse.org.

As the researchers note, these results have practical implications for programmers of streaming services, who might better serve their customers by creating playlists based on the aforementioned categories rather than rigid genre distinctions.

They will also be interesting to the many people researching the use of music in the healing process. Do certain types of music promote health better than others, or does it depend upon a patient’s preference? It’s a question worth exploring.

For now, however, the research suggests a club or concert hall may be a great place for potential mates to meet. If you love the same music, chances are you have similar, and presumably compatible, personalities.

So if you want to really get to know someone, consider quoting a classic tune from the great American songbook: “I like a Gershwin tune. How about you?”


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