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rhahl

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Posted: Apr 1, 2022 - 3:37pm

 
Russia stopped integrating it's economy with Europe after the 2007-8 financial crisis (14:20).
 
TL;DR: After 2008, China and Russia decided that neoliberalism is too weak to bet on. Russia is now a main supplier of energy to Europe because of US cutting supplies of oil to Europe from Iran, Iraq, and Libya. Obama and Hillary seem truly stupid.
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Posted: Mar 30, 2022 - 11:27pm

"If you get into a fight with a blind, naked, and
drunk guy which part do you think is the best?
None! Because it was in a prickle patch!" 

– I see, said the blind man.
#pricklepatch
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Posted: Mar 30, 2022 - 5:32pm

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Posted: Mar 30, 2022 - 8:44am

 rhahl wrote:

Neoliberalism impoverishes. Neoliberalism is a class war against labour by finance, primarily, and a class war against industry. A class war against governments. It’s the financial class really against the whole rest of society seeking to use debt leverage to control companies, countries, families and individuals by debt. And the question is, are they really going to be able to convince people that the way to get rich is to go into debt. Or are other countries going to say, this is a blind alley. And it’s been a blind alley really since Rome that bequeathed all the pro creditor debt laws to western civilization that were utterly different from those of the near east, that, where civilizations take off.



Hmm, our economic policies have advanced the working class, but the problem with free market economies/ neoliberalism... is the focus on efficiencies. Stretching the system, limiting excess capacity in the search of maximum profits. This results in more debt, and more significantly less slack for when things go wrong. Add a little pressure on something so tightly wound, and it snaps. It's part of what created the great recession, and part of what ails us now. 
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Posted: Mar 30, 2022 - 3:25am

 rhahl wrote:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/03/nato-russia-proxy-war-revealing-signs-of-a-fading-america-michael-hudson.html
 

MH:The crisis is political. It’s not [about] going with another currency. President Putin, in his speeches, said this war is not about Ukraine. This war is about restructuring the international order. And what that means is an alternative to the IMF. An alternative set of institutions to the World Bank. An alternative to the World Court. And an alternative to the US rules-based order based on the United Nations rules for instance, but that can’t be done as long as the United States is a member of that group.

So it means that there’s going to be a new grouping of international organizations, of which the United States will not join because it won’t join any organization that it does not have veto power in. So you’re going to have to parallel paths. You’ll have a neoliberal financialized, debt-financed path in Europe and North America, and you’ll have an industrial capitalism evolving into socialism path in China and the Belt and Road Initiative, Shanghai Cooperation Organization Block.

...

But I don’t think atomic war is likely. I think that the United States is going to try to convince other countries that neoliberalism is the way that they can get rich. And of course, it’s not.

Neoliberalism impoverishes. Neoliberalism is a class war against labour by finance, primarily, and a class war against industry. A class war against governments. It’s the financial class really against the whole rest of society seeking to use debt leverage to control companies, countries, families and individuals by debt. And the question is, are they really going to be able to convince people that the way to get rich is to go into debt. Or are other countries going to say, this is a blind alley. And it’s been a blind alley really since Rome that bequeathed all the pro creditor debt laws to western civilization that were utterly different from those of the near east, that, where civilizations take off.

 
Here's another take with the same kind of warning from back in 2016.  Much has gone down and is different since then, but the warning is still the same.

Evidently a huge bait and switch being successfully executed.

I don't really have a real understanding of the term neoliberalism as it has seldom hit my windshield.  But I will be more conscious of it going forward and look for indicators.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 11:18am

 rhahl wrote:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/03/nato-russia-proxy-war-revealing-signs-of-a-fading-america-michael-hudson.html
 

MH:The crisis is political. It’s not going with another currency. President Putin, in his speeches, said this war is not about Ukraine. This war is about restructuring the international order. And what that means is an alternative to the IMF. An alternative set of institutions to the World Bank. An alternative to the World Court. And an alternative to the US rules-based order based on the United Nations rules for instance, but that can’t be done as long as the United States is a member of that group.

So it means that there’s going to be a new grouping of international organizations, of which the United States will not join because it won’t join any organization that it does not have veto power in. So you’re going to have to parallel paths. You’ll have a neoliberal financialized, debt-financed path in Europe and North America, and you’ll have an industrial capitalism evolving into socialism path in China and the Belt and Road Initiative, Shanghai Cooperation Organization Block.

...

But I don’t think atomic war is likely. I think that the United States is going to try to convince other countries that neoliberalism is the way that they can get rich. And of course, it’s not.

Neoliberalism impoverishes. Neoliberalism is a class war against labour by finance, primarily, and a class war against industry. A class war against governments. It’s the financial class really against the whole rest of society seeking to use debt leverage to control companies, countries, families and individuals by debt. And the question is, are they really going to be able to convince people that the way to get rich is to go into debt. Or are other countries going to say, this is a blind alley. And it’s been a blind alley really since Rome that bequeathed all the pro creditor debt laws to western civilization that were utterly different from those of the near east, that, where civilizations take off.



Glad to read that 
rhahl

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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 5:14am

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/03/nato-russia-proxy-war-revealing-signs-of-a-fading-america-michael-hudson.html
 

MH:The crisis is political. It’s not [about] going with another currency. President Putin, in his speeches, said this war is not about Ukraine. This war is about restructuring the international order. And what that means is an alternative to the IMF. An alternative set of institutions to the World Bank. An alternative to the World Court. And an alternative to the US rules-based order based on the United Nations rules for instance, but that can’t be done as long as the United States is a member of that group.

So it means that there’s going to be a new grouping of international organizations, of which the United States will not join because it won’t join any organization that it does not have veto power in. So you’re going to have to parallel paths. You’ll have a neoliberal financialized, debt-financed path in Europe and North America, and you’ll have an industrial capitalism evolving into socialism path in China and the Belt and Road Initiative, Shanghai Cooperation Organization Block.

...

But I don’t think atomic war is likely. I think that the United States is going to try to convince other countries that neoliberalism is the way that they can get rich. And of course, it’s not.

Neoliberalism impoverishes. Neoliberalism is a class war against labour by finance, primarily, and a class war against industry. A class war against governments. It’s the financial class really against the whole rest of society seeking to use debt leverage to control companies, countries, families and individuals by debt. And the question is, are they really going to be able to convince people that the way to get rich is to go into debt. Or are other countries going to say, this is a blind alley. And it’s been a blind alley really since Rome that bequeathed all the pro creditor debt laws to western civilization that were utterly different from those of the near east, that, where civilizations take off.

rhahl

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Posted: Mar 29, 2022 - 3:29am

Our Economic System is Making Us Mentally ill
 
https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/28/our-economic-system-is-making-us-mentally-ill/