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Posted: Mar 11, 2019 - 12:10pm

 sunybuny wrote:
There is never too much U2.



 


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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 9:20pm

 buddy wrote:

I hear there are other internet streams available. Might check them out if RP isn't good for you.

 
Explore other internet streams? I have, buddy superstar! I was just adding my voice to the Chorus of Gripe. I guess you were too. 

{#Wave}
westslope

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 8:58pm

Sigh.  Fussy, fussy. 

Luckily, digital technology comes to the rescue of American prissy individualism by making multiple streams available.   RP ain't 'Left Coast'.  RP is catering to and furthering the boundaries of possessive individualism.   Uber capitalist.  

I vote for a single stream.    
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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 6:14pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 BillG wrote:
If we limited airplay on RP to artists that nobody had ever demanded — and/or requested politely — that we stop playing , it would be a very short list. Definitely no Porcupine Tree, U2, Radiohead, Stones, Beatles, Porcupine Tree, Pink Floyd, Dylan, Talking Heads, Bowie, Porcupine Tree, Tori Amos, Elvis Costello, Pearl Jam, Porcupine Tree, Neil Young,  The National, Porcupine Tree, Dire Straits, or Peter Gabriel. Oh, and nothing with a guitar solo. Or cymbals.  Or Porcupine Tree.

And if we limited airplay only to artists who were well-behaved  good citizens, things would be *really* quiet around here :-)

We do have some limits. Bono's lyrics and voice may win out over his tax hypocrisy, but Ryan Adams? Sorry, dude. 
 

Just in case this list you're compiling ever gets implemented, I made a couple of edits.

 

Should have added "Or Radiohead. Or Thom Yorke. Or Radiohead." 


If familiarity breeds contempt, it's breeding like rabbits with Radiohead on RP. 



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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 6:02pm

 gui1ty wrote:


 buddy wrote:
Too much U2?  Not for my taste.
 
My post isn't about taste, it's about morality. Taste is something personal. Morality or ethics, if you like, too a much lesser extent.

I'm boycotting U2 not because of their music, but because of their hypocrisy.
I too have issues with that murderous bastard Bono...He announces that every time he claps his hands a young child dies in Africa...Why for all that is holy does he continue to clap his hands?{#Cry}


westslope

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 4:15pm

The very best English Canadian folk artist I have seen in concert was Bruce Cockburn.   Acoustical in London, Ontario in the mid-70s — you could hear a pin drop between notes — and in Quebec City in the mid-1980s when he was electric.   Nothing boring about those concerts especially the Quebec City concert as he was raging against the American war machine in Central America. 

For Quebec folk artists, it was undoubtedly Michel Rivard whose stage presence and sense of humour were off the charts.  
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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:56pm



 westslope wrote:


 islander wrote:
Yeah, I think that has more to do with canadian broadcast licenses requiring a certain percentage of air time going to canadian artists. It's not like there is really that much demand to hear chilliwhack. 

Absolutely.   I saw Chilliwack at the Winter Pop concert in Toronto in 1971.  Johnny Winter, James Gang and Sha Na Na.  Chilliwack was the least interesting of the bunch.   

Oddly enough, the Canadian content requirements may explain in part why  English Canadian artists have done so well in the US market.  
 
Yeah there were quite a few (Neil, Joni, The Band, Randy Bachman, etc.).  Old Gordo was popular in the States in the '70s and had quite a few hits, but likely not as many as he did in Canada.  I like a lot of his songs.  Apparently he had a big following in the Great Lakes states, especially Michigan.  A friend of mine who grew up in Newmarket was a big fan, but he said he fell asleep during one of Lightfoot's shows in Toronto.

westslope

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:48pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 BillG wrote:
If we limited airplay on RP to artists that nobody had ever demanded — and/or requested politely — that we stop playing , it would be a very short list. Definitely no Porcupine Tree, U2, Radiohead, Stones, Beatles, Porcupine Tree, Pink Floyd, Dylan, Talking Heads, Bowie, Porcupine Tree, Tori Amos, Elvis Costello, Pearl Jam, Porcupine Tree, Neil Young,  The National, Porcupine Tree, Dire Straits, or Peter Gabriel. Oh, and nothing with a guitar solo. Or cymbals.  Or Porcupine Tree.

And if we limited airplay only to artists who were well-behaved  good citizens, things would be *really* quiet around here :-)

We do have some limits. Bono's lyrics and voice may win out over his tax hypocrisy, but Ryan Adams? Sorry, dude. 
 

Just in case this list you're compiling ever gets implemented, I made a couple of edits.
 
LOL!   Hilarious.  

See gui1ty?    Imagine the 'slippery slope' this move to censure risks imposing on us.

westslope

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:43pm



 islander wrote:


 westslope wrote:


 ............

Once upon at time, it was hard to listen to English Canadian radio for more than a couple hours without hearing at least one Lightfoot tune.    So I certainly understand the 'big head' he may have shouldered.  

 

Yeah, I think that has more to do with canadian broadcast licenses requiring a certain percentage of air time going to canadian artists. It's not like there is really that much demand to hear chilliwhack. 
 

Absolutely.   I saw Chilliwack at the Winter Pop concert in Toronto in 1971.  Johnny Winter, James Gang and Sha Na Na.  Chilliwack was the least interesting of the bunch.   

Oddly enough, the Canadian content requirements may explain in part why  English Canadian artists have done so well in the US market.  
westslope

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:36pm



 gui1ty wrote:
.........

Reason: I'm trying to boycott them until they pay their taxes, like anyone else, instead of evading them by using some tax evasion scheme made possible by Dutch law. Bono is a total hypocrite, if you ask me, posing as the savior of the world, asking others to give generously, but not paying his due share.

 
Fair enough.   But perhaps instead of lobbying Radio Paradise to drop U2, you should try exhorting RP listeners to not buy U2 music.    Nothing wrong with promoting a little awareness.

I do not particularly like Bono's righteous politics and I disagree with much of Roger Water's finger-pointing, exclusionist politics,  to name another example, but forget about asking me and others to stop listening to these artists.  

My favourite Magic Realist author was a Marxist.  I get angry thinking about the the colossal damage that Neo-Marxist regimes have inflicted upon South American and African countries and millions of poor people but do not expect me to shut out artists and fiction writers based on their politics.  

In the background here, there is a growing reactionary movement on North American campuses to shut down folks with whom some students  do not agree.  On an emotional level, that movement evokes fascism.  
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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:29pm



 westslope wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:


 westslope wrote:
Gordon Lightfood as an example of good behaviour.  Hilarious.

Actually I get the impression Lightfoot mellowed out quite nicely in the later years.
 
It was more the visual I was going for but he always seemed like a mellow, pleasant sort of guy to me - I don't know if he actually was/is.  He has been married 3 times but he hasn't left Canuckistan for a tax dodge; I imagine he still lives somewhere in Ontario.
 
Given an interview or two he gave to female journalists way back in the day, by current standards he would described as arrogant, egotistical and possibly misogynist.   

Once upon at time, it was hard to listen to English Canadian radio for more than a couple hours without hearing at least one Lightfoot tune.    So I certainly understand the 'big head' he may have shouldered.  

 

Yeah, I think that has more to do with canadian broadcast licenses requiring a certain percentage of air time going to canadian artists. It's not like there is really that much demand to hear chilliwhack. 
islander

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:27pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 BillG wrote:
If we limited airplay on RP to artists that nobody had ever demanded — and/or requested politely — that we stop playing , it would be a very short list. Definitely no Porcupine Tree, U2, Radiohead, Stones, Beatles, Porcupine Tree, Pink Floyd, Dylan, Talking Heads, Bowie, Porcupine Tree, Tori Amos, Elvis Costello, Pearl Jam, Porcupine Tree, Neil Young,  The National, Porcupine Tree, Dire Straits, or Peter Gabriel. Oh, and nothing with a guitar solo. Or cymbals.  Or Porcupine Tree.

And if we limited airplay only to artists who were well-behaved  good citizens, things would be *really* quiet around here :-)

We do have some limits. Bono's lyrics and voice may win out over his tax hypocrisy, but Ryan Adams? Sorry, dude. 
 

Just in case this list you're compiling ever gets implemented, I made a couple of edits.
 

*cough* Deceberists *cough* (and maybe Tori Amos again). 
westslope

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:24pm



 Proclivities wrote:


 westslope wrote:
Gordon Lightfood as an example of good behaviour.  Hilarious.

Actually I get the impression Lightfoot mellowed out quite nicely in the later years.
 
It was more the visual I was going for but he always seemed like a mellow, pleasant sort of guy to me - I don't know if he actually was/is.  He has been married 3 times but he hasn't left Canuckistan for a tax dodge; I imagine he still lives somewhere in Ontario.
 
Given an interview or two he gave to female journalists way back in the day, by current standards he would described as arrogant, egotistical and possibly misogynist.   

Once upon at time, it was hard to listen to English Canadian radio for more than a couple hours without hearing at least one Lightfoot tune.    So I certainly understand the 'big head' he may have shouldered.  

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:19pm



 buddy wrote:
Too much U2?  Not for my taste.
 


ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:13pm



 BillG wrote:
If we limited airplay on RP to artists that nobody had ever demanded — and/or requested politely — that we stop playing , it would be a very short list. Definitely no Porcupine Tree, U2, Radiohead, Stones, Beatles, Porcupine Tree, Pink Floyd, Dylan, Talking Heads, Bowie, Porcupine Tree, Tori Amos, Elvis Costello, Pearl Jam, Porcupine Tree, Neil Young,  The National, Porcupine Tree, Dire Straits, or Peter Gabriel. Oh, and nothing with a guitar solo. Or cymbals.  Or Porcupine Tree.

And if we limited airplay only to artists who were well-behaved  good citizens, things would be *really* quiet around here :-)

We do have some limits. Bono's lyrics and voice may win out over his tax hypocrisy, but Ryan Adams? Sorry, dude. 
 

Just in case this list you're compiling ever gets implemented, I made a couple of edits.
gui1ty

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 10:18am



 buddy wrote:

As is your right. So don't buy their records, don't go to their shows. Asking RP to adopt your moral position is a bit over the top, IMHO. I suppose you could hit PSD whenever U2 is played, or boycott RP altogether. You have choices.

I'm not asking RP to adopt my morals. As I mentioned in my opening post, I was bit annoyed that U2 is so overly prominent on RP, especially on the rocking channel. It's a bit out of balance, if you ask me. I probably started noticing more, since I've taken a grudge against them.

As for the options you mentioned, they all apply except for boycotting RP. That would be unfair on RP and an act of masochism on myself.

*edit: I noticed you've rated U2's "The Fly" a 9. Might want to clean up your list to match your politics, or perhaps that one rocks enough to merit an exception?

I downrated all U2 songs as they came along just before hitting SKIP. I guess that one song has not been played since while I was listening. Seeing, that I've already downrated most U2 songs, kinda confirms the fact that U2 is played way to often on RP.

@BillG, does the offline listening feature in the app, take ratings into consideration at all? I guess not. Almost every cache block I download, has one U2 song in it. Although, this could also be a matter of perception, rather than truth.
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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 9:42am

Oh, come on.  That was 60 years ago.  Let it go!  

:) 
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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 9:33am



 BillG wrote:
If we limited airplay on RP to artists that nobody had ever demanded — and/or requested politely — that we stop playing , it would be a very short list. Definitely no U2, Radiohead, Stones, Beatles, Pink Floyd, Dylan, Talking Heads, Bowie, Tori Amos, Elvis Costello, Pearl Jam, Neil Young,  The National, Dire Straits, or Peter Gabriel. Oh, and nothing with a guitar solo. Or cymbals.  

And if we limited airplay only to artists who were well-behaved  good citizens, things would be *really* quiet around here :-)

We do have some limits. Bono's lyrics and voice may win out over his tax hypocrisy, but Ryan Adams? Sorry, dude. 
 
Nice, the Dead didn't make the list! 

buddy

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 9:03am

 gui1ty wrote:


 buddy wrote:
Too much U2?  Not for my taste.
 
My post isn't about taste, it's about morality. Taste is something personal. Morality or ethics, if you like, too a much lesser extent.

I'm boycotting U2 not because of their music, but because of their hypocrisy.
 
As is your right. So don't buy their records, don't go to their shows. Asking RP to adopt your moral position is a bit over the top, IMHO. I suppose you could hit PSD whenever U2 is played, or boycott RP altogether. You have choices.

*edit: I noticed you've rated U2's "The Fly" a 9. Might want to clean up your list to match your politics, or perhaps that one rocks enough to merit an exception?
gui1ty

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Posted: Mar 8, 2019 - 8:56am



 BillG wrote:
And if we limited airplay only to artists who were well-behaved  good citizens, things would be *really* quiet around here :-)

BillG, you are taking it much broader. That's not fair. I don't mind misfits, drug (ab)users, ill speakers, etc. That's all a matter of life style and mostly concerns the person in question. I'm no angel myself.

However, U2 being one of the biggest bands in popular music history, having accumulated extraordinary amounts of money over the past decades, should have no problem paying their due share whatsoever. That tax money goes to the government, who takes care of common expenses for the greater good of all of us. In part it even goes to charity. Charity, that U2, and Bono in particular, promote all over the world. They probably even spent money of their own on charity for all I know. But it all starts with paying your due (tax) share. It's what created U2, made them possible, in the first place.

We do have some limits. Bono's lyrics and voice may win out over his tax hypocrisy, but Ryan Adams? Sorry, dude. 
 
I wasn't asking RP to stop playing U2 entirely. I know that would be too much to ask. Just reduce it. Make them less prominent on RP.
For every U2 song you play, you have to pay royalties to U2, right? That money is better spent on other artists, in my opinion. For a very small, dare I say, tiny amount, that's my money.

It's all a question of putting your money where your mouth is. Which is what I'm willing to do. My money goes to RP for all the good music you play and all the memorable moments I had listening. Please, forward less of it to U2.
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