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 rosedraws wrote: 
nice ride congrats!

i have test driven that car and i really liked it

the electronics are awesome

i recently sold my 2011 vw jetta diesel, someone made me an offer i couldn't refuse

i have an older honda to drive

jetta was black on black and in the sofla sun that is like an oven

i've got my eye on the 2012 with a few different tweaks/improvements

peace

I bought (leased) a new Ford. (I'll post pix tomorrow... we pick it up tonight).

My adult life has included a handful of other carmakers, and 14 HONDAs, I thought my family in Michigan would be thrilled!
I think they're just in shock.

 kurtster wrote: 
GE.Not all of it. It would be impossible for them to go offshore. They just got too big too fast. They will blow out sooner or later.

ALL offshore.

 JrzyTmata wrote: 
Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of GE and Obama's Jobs Czar, said that on 60 minutes Sunday. Companies are getting tired of trying to deal with the Chinese.

 hippiechick wrote: 
I heard another report a couple of months ago about college dorms and the foreign made catalogs that were in every room. they found american made items for the same prices and took it to the administration.

Also heard a report (not sure of the source, might have been abc news) that overseas manufacturing jobs are making a comeback to america because chinese labor costs are going up.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 

There was a GE lightbulb plant just 15 miles from me in Ravenna, Ohio.  It was closed about two years ago.  It was opened around WW II or shortly thereafter.  Something about labor costs, the usual excuses.  No effort to retool, just to keep it operating.  But on the otherhand, incandescant bulbs are pretty much finished as far as finding ways to improve them.  No need for retooling.

The jobs were moved offshore, which is what GE seems to be doing with the majority of its businesses.

 JrzyTmata wrote: 
They have been doing regular programming about this.

I saw this story on ABC World News last night. The idea is taking off. 

Made in America: A Blueprint for Creating Jobs

In Bozeman, Mont., Anders Lewendal is hard at work building a home he hopes will be a blueprint for creating jobs in America.

Lewendal, an economist turned builder, is constructing a house made entirely from U.S.-made products. Everything from the nails, screws and bolts, to the steel, staples and bathtub is made in the United States.

"Every piece here is made in America," he said.

Lewendal is convinced that if every builder bought just 5 percent more U.S.-made materials, they would create 220,000 jobs. The Boston Consulting Group agrees, confirming that Lewendal's numbers add up.

 
click on the link for the rest of the article.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 
I absolutely agree about the 'buy quality' mantra. Don't prop up shoddily-made goods, no matter where they're made. Since I've started repairing hair salon gear, I've become pretty disgusted (ok, MORE disgusted) with what passes for a 'quality' item. And not all are made in China. Worse, a good portion of the 'quality' has been designed OUT of the product: even if it was produced perfectly, the design itself is lousy. Plastic parts that are super-flimsy: adding $.05 worth of plastic would have prevented a $150 hair dryer from being trash after it was dropped once. Wire connections that put stress on the solder joints. Tiny little power cords that short out after regular use: spend another $.10 per unit and upgrade to more durable wires: you'll be making 199% profit instead of 200%, and you'll have a lot fewer returns.

Most people think the 'quality' comes in on the manufacturing side, but the fact is most of the quality, and most of the cost, is designed into the product: no amount of manufacturing magic can make a poorly-designed product better.

 hippiechick wrote: 
re: light bulbs... our local lighting store told me that they get their bulbs from a manufacturer in Poland. Says they're built like WW2 and last much longer than typical long-life bulbs. Seems to be true. Also they're pretty cheap, not being a name brand. So yeah, buy US when you can, but failing that, at least make sure you're buying quality. Actually, it should be: Quality first, then in the case of a tie, buy American. Nobody wins when you buy crap just because it was made in USA.

Edit: and there are American light bulb manufacturers. Don't know why they aren't in stores, and they might be 400% more expensive, but there's no reason they can't be made here.

there are websites out there that sell only american made goods. google should find them easily.

We have decided that we are going to buy American whenever possible. ABC did a segment about buying American, and they found that almost everything in your house can be manufactured in America. (Two exceptions: lightbulbs, and, I can't remember the other).

We went to the Big Box for some hardware the other day, and we were able to buy American for what we needed.

Don;t exactly know how to use this thread, but maybe we can share examples of American made products.