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MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 11:59am

 dionysius wrote:


You are such a sharp-intellect Ivana, my dear! I too am Ivan, with some softie Alyosha tendencies. Neither of us are much of a fun-loving, extroverted Dmitri.


 
You're both nuts but I can see how you got together!  I was a more conventional teenager and over-read Tolstoy.

dionysius

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:52am

 maryte wrote:


Okay, so which one did you categorize me as? 


 

You are such a sharp-intellect Ivana, my dear! I too am Ivan, with some softie Alyosha tendencies. Neither of us are much of a fun-loving, extroverted Dmitri.
maryte

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:47am

 dionysius wrote:



I devoured Brothers (and most other Dostoyevsky) when I was a teenager. Yeah, I was a weird kid. I internalized a lot of that particular novel, too; I used to meet someone and categorize him/her as a Dmitri, Alyosha or Ivan type. By the way, I screwed up big time below when I said "Dmitri" when describing Solzhenitsyn; I meant "Alyosha" (oops!).

Would have liked to have heard that BBC production. The Beeb does great radio programming.


 

Okay, so which one did you categorize me as? 
dionysius

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 9:33am

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:
You finished the Brothers Karamazov?  I gave up less than a third of the way through.  Fortunately Radio 4 recently dramatised it so I got to the end the easy way!


 


I devoured Brothers (and most other Dostoyevsky) when I was a teenager. Yeah, I was a weird kid. I internalized a lot of that particular novel, too; I used to meet someone and categorize him/her as a Dmitri, Alyosha or Ivan type. By the way, I screwed up big time below when I said "Dmitri" when describing Solzhenitsyn; I meant "Alyosha" (oops!).

Would have liked to have heard that BBC production. The Beeb does great radio programming.
winter

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Posted: Aug 4, 2008 - 12:18am

RIP, Mr. Solzhenitsyn.
Lazy8

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 9:18pm

exotraxx wrote:

Well, I just read the RIP comments on the death of Solzhenitsyn.
They go from ‘Rock On’ to ‘My Mom likes Gulag’. Like almost the usual RIP comment – a ritual without any meaning but with sense, of course – all find ‘The World is Poorer Now’.
Someone died. Do you know how many die each day?
Now Solzhenitsyn. The other day it was – an actor or musician, for example. But now Solzhenitsyn.
And that is interesting: Solzhenitsyn is someone from another world. Not US Disneyland. And he described a reality much worse or much more strange than the one you live in.
Solzhenitsyn is a figure in your world like any other created by Hollywood. He’s a hero for you because he gives you the opportunity to feel being part of a better world that what he describes – that’s the US Disneyland part. You have rituals without any meaning but with a sense, of course. And Schlabby is one of the frontrunners.


No meaning to you, maybe; just another of our quaint Disneylander traditions—when somebody who means something to us dies we commiserate.

It's a goal some of us have: leave the world a better place, live a life worth mourning when we're gone.

Try it.

bokey

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 5:02pm

 exotraxx wrote:
Well, I just read the RIP comments on the death of Solzhenitsyn.
They go from ‘Rock On’ to ‘My Mom likes Gulag’. Like almost the usual RIP comment – a ritual without any meaning but with sense, of course – all find ‘The World is Poorer Now’.
Someone died. Do you know how many die each day?
Now Solzhenitsyn. The other day it was – an actor or musician, for example. But now Solzhenitsyn.
And that is interesting: Solzhenitsyn is someone from another world. Not US Disneyland. And he described a reality much worse or much more strange than the one you live in.
Solzhenitsyn is a figure in your world like any other created by Hollywood. He’s a hero for you because he gives you the opportunity to feel being part of a better world that what he describes – that’s the US Disneyland part. You have rituals without any meaning but with a sense, of course. And Schlabby is one of the frontrunners.


 

 And every day you are still you. And you will always be you. How sad that must be. {#Cry}

dionysius

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 4:25pm

A difficult man. A better writer-critic than a man with a plan, that's for sure. Thinking of Solzhenitsyn, I am reminded of the character of Dmitri in The Brothers Karamazov, a foolish, principled mystic, quintessentially Russian. Perhaps Solzhenitsyn had more of the mind of Dostoyevsky's Ivan (and of course his own Ivan), but at heart he was a bullheaded Slavophile curmudgeon, the rest of the world be damned. But I can forgive him most anything for One Day, Gulag Archipelago and (especially for me) November 1916. I've never read The First Circle; I will make time to do so soon.

Do svedaniya, tovarich.
oldviolin

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 4:07pm

Do svidania mon ami.


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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 4:03pm

betterdaze wrote:

I'm sad to hear this. Reading One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich is an experience I'll never forget. Such a haunting and important work.





Rest in peace, great man. Thank you.




What she said. {#Cheers}
Lazy8

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 4:02pm

What a complicated man! Part human rights crusader, part bigoted nationalist nutcase. His exposure of the gulag was heroic, and we all owe him a tremendous debt for that.

мир, брат.
bokey

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 3:02pm

Rock on in the next world Mr. Solzhenitsyn, rock on.
betterdaze

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 3:01pm

I'm sad to hear this. Reading One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich is an experience I'll never forget. Such a haunting and important work.




Rest in peace, great man. Thank you.
CafeRacer

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 2:59pm

One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich made such an impression on me all those years ago.  What a brave, gifted man he was.  The world is a little bit poorer now.


triskele

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 2:55pm

my mom loved gulag

rip, alexei! dosvedanya!


MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 2:51pm

One of the greats.  I'll never forget "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich".  Have to admit I don't want to reread it either- grim stuff.


maryte

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Posted: Aug 3, 2008 - 2:48pm

Russian Nobel winner Solzhenitsyn dead at 89


Moscow - Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the Nobel prize winner for literature who was exiled from the Soviet Union for his graphic portrayals of life in Soviet labour camps, was dead at age 89, the news agency Interfax reported early Monday.


The agency quoted literary circles in the Russian capital, where he was living since 1994 after the fall of the Soviet Union.


The world famous writer and historian had not been seen in public for months, and had reportedly been seriously ill for months. He died from the aftermath of a stroke, according to unconfirmed information.


Solzhenitsyn's main work was the massive Gulag Archipelago, first published in the West in 1973, which described the years of Stalinist terror using thousands of details and individual cases.


In 2007, the one-time exile received the highest Russian government award for his work in the humanities - the Russian State Prize.


In announcing the prize last year, Yury Osipov, president of the Russian Academy of Sciences, called Solzhenitsyn 'the author of works without which the history of the 20th century is unthinkable.'


One of Solzhenitsyn's first, most famous books, a slender volume called One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, appeared in 1963 in English at the height of the Cold War.


It was the story of a former prisoner of war caught by the Germans during World War II, then returned home only to face charges of being a spy - a fate that awaited many POWs returning home to the Soviet Union.


The massive Gulag Archipelago, published in the west in 1973 and circulated in samizdat - or underground - publication within the Soviet Union, turned the world's attention to the horrors of the Soviet gulag system.


That book led to Solzhenitsyn's exile from his homeland in 1974.


Solzhenitsyn did not attend the announcement of the state prize in Moscow's Kremlin in 2007, but his wife Natalya said the writer hoped his study of Russia's history would help the country in the future.


The prize, she said, 'gives a certain hope, and Alexander Isayevich (Solzhenitsyn) would be glad if that hope came to life, a hope our country will learn the lesson of its self-destruction in the 20th century and not repeat it.'


The State Prize's origins date back to Soviet times, but Solzhenitsyn was just the second person to receive the prize for work in the humanities.


Russian Orthodox Patriarch Alexiy II received the first such prize in 2006.