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Nov 15, 2015 - 4:31pm
DaveInVA wrote:
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Where's Harry Reid?
That guy and Nancy Pelosi amaze me. The things that come out of their mouths, are almost just a stupid as the stuff that comes out of most all politicians. I think they are #1 and #2 though.
True, not on Iraq. Having myself voted against that terrible mistake, I agree that her position on the war is a legitimate concern for those of us on the left. The question then becomes whether this was a manifestation of a general tendency to support unwise military intervention, or the case of her joining every other Democratic senator who had serious presidential ambitions in voting for a war that the Bush-Cheney administration had successfully hyped as a necessary defense against terrorism. While I wish that she, Joe Biden and John Kerry had not been spooked into believing that no one who voted no would have the national security merit badge required to win the presidency, I regard liberal senators’ support for the Iraq War as a response to a given fraught political situation rather than an indication of their basic policy stance — like Obama’s off-again, on-again support for same-sex marriage. (Yes, I am saying that in deciding whether or not to support a candidate with whom I have disagreed on a fundamental issue, I am more at ease if it was a one-time political accommodation rather than a genuine conviction.)
Yeah, principles are all well and good—but not if they get in the way of your political ambitions. What are a few hundred thousand lives and a trillion dollars of debt compared to that?
Not to mention choosing her as the champion of improving on wealth inequality. And of course there is this:
This is fascinating, as I am sure with most people that are not in the beltway, I had always just assumed that the Clintons have always supported gay marriage. Couldn't be more wrong.Hillary Clinton's Gay-Marriage Problem
True, not on Iraq. Having myself voted against that terrible mistake, I agree that her position on the war is a legitimate concern for those of us on the left. The question then becomes whether this was a manifestation of a general tendency to support unwise military intervention, or the case of her joining every other Democratic senator who had serious presidential ambitions in voting for a war that the Bush-Cheney administration had successfully hyped as a necessary defense against terrorism. While I wish that she, Joe Biden and John Kerry had not been spooked into believing that no one who voted no would have the national security merit badge required to win the presidency, I regard liberal senators’ support for the Iraq War as a response to a given fraught political situation rather than an indication of their basic policy stance — like Obama’s off-again, on-again support for same-sex marriage. (Yes, I am saying that in deciding whether or not to support a candidate with whom I have disagreed on a fundamental issue, I am more at ease if it was a one-time political accommodation rather than a genuine conviction.)
Yeah, principles are all well and good—but not if they get in the way of your political ambitions. What are a few hundred thousand lives and a trillion dollars of debt compared to that?
Why do they insist on borrowing foreign currency while gutting the middle class Americans who bought into the "savings" program and are now left hanging in the wind?Ya know, the middle class was happy with 5% bonds, until Obama stuck the knife in.
They aren't really a political party, they are a branch of organized crime.
Looking only at one facet that jumped out at me. Why are you so worried about white citizens and police officers instead of citizens and police officers? What about the black and Hispanic police? I actually doubt that whites are killed most often but don't have any stats. But, since many neighbourhoods are pretty segregated, I would strongly expect that other Hispanics and blacks are killed more often than whites. That is the really sad thing about street crime in general - by reducing the security of the poorest people, it hinders advancement with a great cost to all of society.
1st, while I did mention white people as the predominant group of victims, when speaking of the police, it was all police, across the board regardless of race as the other specific victim group. These are the two primary victim and target groups of these illegals within these sanctuary cities.
2nd, I'm not talking about street crime in general. I'm talking exclusively about a certain class of criminals who would not even be present in the USA to commit these crimes if these Sanctuary Cities did not exist. This is crime that is 100% preventable. The perp in the latest incident who killed Kate Steinle with a Federal Agent's gun, openly admitted the only reason he was in SF is because it is a Sanctuary City. These cities attract illegal alien criminals because they know they get a free pass to do whatever they wish. These Sanctuary Cities are magnets that draw these scumbag killers and rapists across the border in the first place. I have a family member who was not only raped by an illegal alien, but was also a victim of a hit skip car accident while on the way to jury duty. The officers at the scene said they wouldn't go after the driver because he was illegal and nothing would happen to him even if they caught him.
And to SFW, my position on illegal immigration predates Fox News existence by about 3 decades, so stuff it.
These SC's are a Democrat Party creation. No one can argue otherwise.
Sanctuary Cities are the worst thing to come from the Democrat Party since the KKK and that is saying a lot.
Its clear that the lives of white citizens and police officers don't matter as they are the ones killed most often by illegals in these Sanctuary Cities that thumb their noses at the Federal Government. Obama feigns outrage while winking at the same time. He actively supports these policies that end up with dead white people and police. More people are killed by illegals than rightwingnutz and Islamic extremists combined.
While Obama will go to the funerals of common street criminals, I'm sure he will not go to the funeral of the latest victim of his immigration policies just as he has yet to attend the funeral of any police officer killed (to the best of my knowledge).
How many more innocent American citizens must die before we get a grip on our open borders and start enforcing the laws already on the books ? It is clear that in these Sanctuary Cities, illegals have more rights than American citizens.
Sanctuary Cities makes my blood boil and angry with those who support this notion of lawlessness. Our laws begin and end at our borders. You cannot advocate for law and order and support these policies at the same time without being a hypocrite. Good people are dying while your civil disobedience marches on.
Trump is right. Calling Trump names does not make his message wrong.
This is a problem created by and wholly owned, operated and supported by Democrats.
end rant ...
and just to be clear, this is about illegal immigration, not legal. There is a difference, a huge difference.
Looking only at one facet that jumped out at me. Why are you so worried about white citizens and police officers instead of citizens and police officers? What about the black and Hispanic police? I actually doubt that whites are killed most often but don't have any stats. But, since many neighbourhoods are pretty segregated, I would strongly expect that other Hispanics and blacks are killed more often than whites. That is the really sad thing about street crime in general - by reducing the security of the poorest people, it hinders advancement with a great cost to all of society.
A minor point, but anyone thinking they'll get a discussion in this thread is barking up the wrong tree. Linguistic nit-picking, sure, but the thread might as well be called Libtards... the intent is the same. It used to be sort of a "secret handshake" to let other conservatives know you were toeing the line. Now it's just the same as wearing a Fox News t-shirt: Tells me you're not going to stop yammering and making Important Points until I leave the room. Which I will now do.
A minor point, but anyone thinking they'll get a discussion in this thread is barking up the wrong tree. Linguistic nit-picking, sure, but the thread might as well be called Libtards... the intent is the same. It used to be sort of a "secret handshake" to let other conservatives know you were toeing the line. Now it's just the same as wearing a Fox News t-shirt: Tells me you're not going to stop yammering and making Important Points until I leave the room. Which I will now do.
Sanctuary Cities are the worst thing to come from the Democrat Party since the KKK and that is saying a lot.
Its clear that the lives of white citizens and police officers don't matter as they are the ones killed most often by illegals in these Sanctuary Cities that thumb their noses at the Federal Government. Obama feigns outrage while winking at the same time. He actively supports these policies that end up with dead white people and police. More people are killed by illegals than rightwingnutz and Islamic extremists combined.
While Obama will go to the funerals of common street criminals, I'm sure he will not go to the funeral of the latest victim of his immigration policies just as he has yet to attend the funeral of any police officer killed (to the best of my knowledge).
How many more innocent American citizens must die before we get a grip on our open borders and start enforcing the laws already on the books ? It is clear that in these Sanctuary Cities, illegals have more rights than American citizens.
Sanctuary Cities makes my blood boil and angry with those who support this notion of lawlessness. Our laws begin and end at our borders. You cannot advocate for law and order and support these policies at the same time without being a hypocrite. Good people are dying while your civil disobedience marches on.
Trump is right. Calling Trump names does not make his message wrong.
This is a problem created by and wholly owned, operated and supported by Democrats.
end rant ...
and just to be clear, this is about illegal immigration, not legal. There is a difference, a huge difference.
I never had any doubt other politicians have of either party have done in the past. Just in his case the paid ones were likely the only supporters at his events.
Other than one of his cousins...maybe. And he had to pay him extra.
You can probably find numerous examples of volunteers and potential supporters being compensated in various ways by political campaigns (bus fare, food, day off with pay, etc.) to pack the audience of a candidate's publicized appearance (Romney, Obama, Bush, all did it at one time or another).
Welcome to the 20th century, my friend!
I never had any doubt other politicians have of either party have done in the past. Just in his case the paid ones were likely the only supporters at his events.
You can probably find numerous examples of volunteers and potential supporters being compensated in various ways by political campaigns (bus fare, food, day off with pay, etc.) to pack the audience of a candidate's publicized appearance (Romney, Obama, Bush, all did it at one time or another).
And of course there is this:
