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Jan 27, 2026 - 1:58pm
steeler wrote:
He would have to be implicated in the fraud. That it occurred during his administration â even if there were a lack of oversight â does not rise to that level.
I await the evidence or support you have for your claim.
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Jan 27, 2026 - 1:54pm
kurtster wrote:
Yes, it is very likely, imo.
He would have to be implicated in the fraud. That it occurred during his administration â even if there were a lack of oversight â does not rise to that level.
I await the evidence or support you have for your claim.
Edit: Or are you saying he will be prosecuted by the Trump DOJ in the manner of prosecution of Trumpâs political enemies?
Okay just to be clear: You think Walz' "fraud problems" are more of a concern for Walz than ICE murdering people in his state? Got it.
Do you really think Walz gives a rat's ass about these people ? The only person Walz is worried about is Walz. All else is political show, towing the party line, imo.
Later, I'm at work and about to go home. Signing off.
Walz is âgoing downâ for what? He already has announced he is not running for reelection and that decision was influenced by the fraud scandal. Are you implying he will be charged with a crime?
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Jan 27, 2026 - 1:44pm
kurtster wrote:
So no Matzah for you, eh ? Well the US is getting anti Jewish exponentially quicker day by day.
Walz is going down over all of the fraud he supervised during his governance. ICE is the least of his problems.
An ICU nurse from a VA hospital was lying FACE DOWN when trumpâs âimmigration agentsâ shot him in the back TEN TIMES.
TEN TIMES, kurtster. A man legally carrying - but not brandishing - a registered firearm was face down with gun removed and then they repeatedly fired into his body when he was no threat.
And you want to âtalkâ about some fraud that happened while Walz is governor instead of the murders and kidnapping of American citizens that are occurring while trump is president? Thatâs messed up.
Since the topic of this thread is fascism in America, this is the information thatâs pertinent to the topic. Not some lame distraction trying to neuter Walzâs influence.
Look at what they did to another of your American brethren.
Jeez, what is wrong with you people ? The subject was Walz, singularly. Walz' problem with fraud is bigger than his problem with ICE.
Just looking at the posts since Saturday, there's no conversing with any of you. You all are singularly fixated on Nazi's in MN and there is only one possible, not to mention one acceptable, explanation for anything you see.
Okay just to be clear: You think Walz' "fraud problems" are more of a concern for Walz than ICE murdering people in his state? Got it.
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Jan 27, 2026 - 1:21pm
kurtster wrote:
Jeez, what is wrong with you people ? The subject was Walz, singularly. Walz' problem with fraud is bigger than his problem with ICE.
Just looking at the posts since Saturday, there's no conversing with any of you. You all are singularly fixated on Nazi's in MN and there is only one possible, not to mention one acceptable, explanation for anything you see.
Walz is âgoing downâ for what? He already has announced he is not running for reelection and that decision was influenced by the fraud scandal. Are you implying he will be charged with a crime?
So, just to be clear, you think the fraud in MN is a larger issue than ICE killing people in MN?
Jeez, what is wrong with you people ? The subject was Walz, singularly. Walz' problem with fraud is bigger than his problem with ICE.
Just looking at the posts since Saturday, there's no conversing with any of you. You all are singularly fixated on Nazi's in MN and there is only one possible, not to mention one acceptable, explanation for anything you see.
Yawn
The GOP and MAGA are trying desperately to tar Walz, just like they did any other Democrat ("drinks the blood of children!" "not born in this country!")
Old, obvious tactics by an old, obvious party.
So no Matzah for you, eh ? Well the US is getting anti Jewish exponentially quicker day by day.
Walz is going down over all of the fraud he supervised during his governance. ICE is the least of his problems.
Yawn
The GOP and MAGA are trying desperately to tar Walz, just like they did any other Democrat ("drinks the blood of children!" "not born in this country!")
Old, obvious tactics by an old, obvious party.
You must be disappointed that no buildings were burned, stores looted and police attacked in the aftermath.
Edit :
Myself, I knew who he was for many years, it was only in the past couple of months did I see videos of him in action, debating anyone on their terms. The wife has been following him for awhile and I could not help but notice and watch over her shoulder (literally) after awhile. He was a true debater, took all comers. He would let them go first and speak their piece and then answer back and begin a peaceful discussion. A true exchanging of ideas.
I know that no one here wants to hear anything remotely positive about him. Sooner or later someone would confront me anyway about him, so here is my take. So I'll leave my impression of what I saw and be done with it. Besides being a great listener, he was calm and passionate at the same time, well informed and at worse, the debates ended with an agreement to disagree. Mostly, he had his questioners beginning to nod as he offered his answers to their questions, mostly because he took them seriously and actually listened to them. He was not there to confront anyone. He was there to be confronted and listen and reply directly to his questioners concerns.
He was truly fearless and walked his talk. All the way to the end. I have no doubt he knew what happened would happen sooner or later, but never stopped making himself available, willing to walk into the lions den and listen and answer anyone who wanted to talk to him.
Oh well. Sorry to bother everyone with these thoughts. They were based upon listening to him at length hearing complete thoughts from all the parties participating. It was refreshing actually, to see the respectful back and forth. Unlike as in most places these days.
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I 'm not into mob violence. Most of the time it defeats any reasonable argument that protesters have.
You're certainly entitled to your two cents. I've seen clips in which Kirk was rude and dismissive to people. I was reminded of Mort Downey, Jr. on 80's TV; he'd bring out someone holding opposing views, let them talk for a bit and then start yelling at them. Oftentimes a security guard or off-duty cop would strong-arm the guest off the stage and the crowd loved it.
Kirk wasn't that bad but AFAICT he was verbally aggressive and deliberately provocative in his opinions. The clips I saw weren't really about debate. I don't think anyone could claim that he was a modern day William F. Buckley, Jr. or Charlie Rose. A thumbnail list of some of his more sensational opinions struck me as obnoxious.
Ezra Klein and Ross Douthat of the NYT praised him for energizing young voters and reaching out to them. Apparently he was very good at that. From what I've read (briefly) about his opinions, they weren't offering constructive policy ideas. They were more about stirring people up and making them more angry at others. I'm also very deeply skeptical of Kirk's and Douthat's opinions that many of our social ills are due to lack of religious faith/churchgoing and the supposedly corrosive effects of women's rights on the nuclear family.
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